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Action on guns and immigration screeches to a halt in Congress - Page 3

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03-05-2018, 01:06 PM
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So March 5th is here and there is no solution. Sad!
So, all this time... and we are back to square one minus AP and new application... so in the end we got screwed....
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03-05-2018, 01:11 PM
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Then it was the role of the bitch ass congressional Democrats to grow some balls and force a better deal. But, no. They are the biggest bitches on planet earth.
How would they "force" a deal? By shutting down gov't that they were clearly getting blamed for? What would that have accomplished? Trump laughing at Dems as the favorability poll show Dems are getting torched? Leading to midterm loss? What do you think will happen when this GOP gets a mandate like that?

For fuck's sake. Stop bitching (about the people on our side, no less) and start THINKING.
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03-05-2018, 01:48 PM
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Then it was the role of the bitch ass congressional Democrats to grow some balls and force a better deal. But, no. They are the biggest bitches on planet earth.
That's easy for us to say given that we're one issue non-voters. They have to answer to a whole bunch of other people who can vote and shutting down the government again would turn many of them off.

Also, I'm not sure what good it does to name call the only people on our side.
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03-05-2018, 02:16 PM
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That's easy for us to say given that we're one issue non-voters. They have to answer to a whole bunch of other people who can vote and shutting down the government again would turn many of them off.

Also, I'm not sure what good it does to name call the only people on our side.
That's giving these BITCHES a pass for reprehensible hypocrisy. How funny they consider us Americans but not enough for these critical points. We are only Americans come the elections. GREAT.

Really easy for them to say wait for the next election. Maybe, it's something you can cope with since you have a pending family application, which I hope gets accepted. The rest of us don't have that dude.
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I know a lot of you don't want to hear it but any deal that would have been passed would have majorly screwed over other immigrants so perhaps this is for the best. Everything is on ice (not ICE) for now and the November elections. If there is a major ass kicking and Republicans lose the house and senate then maybe Trump will see the writing on the wall and the Democrats will have real leverage.
Nope. They can and should still take action by 3/23.

Flake should offer his bill for votes and see what self-claimed supporters, Dem and Rep, do on the record.

They could have done this in September. And the shutdown was not only about Dreamers. It was one day (weekends do not count as fed agencies close).

People do not have until the next election because they are currently at risk. Pelosi went on record to say that immigration reform can always pass in some form in the future. The future is now. I'm sorry, but there are no excuses. When people need help, you give it right when they need it.
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Nope. They can and should still take action by 3/23.

Flake should offer his bill for votes and see what self-claimed supporters, Dem and Rep, do on the record.

They could have done this in September. And the shutdown was not only about Dreamers. It was one day (weekends do not count as fed agencies close).

People do not have until the next election because they are currently at risk. Pelosi went on record to say that immigration reform can always pass in some form in the future. The future is now. I'm sorry, but there are no excuses. When people need help, you give it right when they need it.
Totally agree with this.
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Nope. They can and should still take action by 3/23.

Flake should offer his bill for votes and see what self-claimed supporters, Dem and Rep, do on the record.

They could have done this in September. And the shutdown was not only about Dreamers. It was one day (weekends do not count as fed agencies close).

People do not have until the next election because they are currently at risk. Pelosi went on record to say that immigration reform can always pass in some form in the future. The future is now. I'm sorry, but there are no excuses. When people need help, you give it right when they need it.
Good luck getting McConnell to bring up any DACA related bill to a vote.
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Good luck getting McConnell to bring up any DACA related bill to a vote.
If trump asks him he will do it. Remember they arent doing it for us. They are doing it for their agenda .
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If trump asks him he will do it. Remember they arent doing it for us. They are doing it for their agenda .
And what makes you think Trump will ask him?
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And what makes you think Trump will ask him?
He likes to win
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