OPINION: Removal of DACA recipients has begun - Page 3

To add to this, don’t forget Trump also has a lot of Hispanic supporters and a lot of Dem voters are becoming more moderate and the wealthy also have support for Trump, most of these individuals support legalization of Dreamers and broader CIR. So he will lose a lot of these people along with that minority of his base.

Some of you give that dimwit a lot of credit. Unfortunately, nobody is going to bat an eye if our permits are taken away.

There may be an uproar in the media for 2 days, maybe a week. Then everyone moves on.

Ditto.

There will be a significant uproar not "Two Days at most" if you think DACAs are not going to be protected and already know the ending to our story why don't you go ahead and pack your shit and leave.

Your ass is still here because deep down you know that we are solid, and that Americans wont leave us hanging. Americans will rise to the occasion and demand congress will do something.

Republicans need not do anything because they gain from not doing anything, but Trump being a so called businessman will try and use us as leverage. Democrats lose unless they help us out. Having a DACA emergency on their doorstep right in front of an election will piss off the Democrat base. CNN will be airing this non stop. Fox and friends will be cheering and partying hard.

But you know what lets analyse this situation and who stands to gain.


Republicans stand to gain the most in any situation here, as usual.
If they help us out in any way, their base will hate them for it.
So the best thing for them to do is just let our DACA expire, and then put targets on us.
Republicans want us out and do not want to bargain in any way that lets us stay here, the only thing they may consider is temporary status to give us time to get our shit together for leaving.


Democrats stand to lose the most here, as usual.
If they dont help us out then we are going to get thrown out along will the other illegals. The base while sympathetic to illegals, also has more pressing concerns. For example, some environmentalists hate illegals because of pollution and such.

You need to chill. Not every response needs to be "pack your shit and leave". Try behave like a civilized adult but may be that is too much to ask for?

I rely on DACA and would be devastated if it is taken away but not all of us can blessed with ignorance to the possibilities of it happening.

It both helps and hurts us that this is happening during the election year. Even if Supreme court upholds it, Trump can cancel DACA "the right way". Guess who still loses? To think the country would uproar is to kid yourself. Nobody is going to give two shits about us if the country is in war with Iran. Wouldn't even get air time. Things that seemed outrageous few years ago, don't even make it to the news because there are crazier things going on.

How am I ignorant of what could happen, I am the one showing all the possibilities to everyone and doing an in-depth analysis of what could happen.

It is a definite plus that this is happening to us during an election year, as I said previously DACA is temporary and meant to end. How is this a define plus? Because its such a good opportunity, probably one of the best opportunities we have.

It is the best opportunity because as you said trump can just go around and end DACA the proper way. Not sure why Trump decided to end DACA improperly, but smart money is on incompetence of Jeff Sessions.

The war in Iran is not going to happen, you calm down. Think through things rationally. Iran is not headed by fools, they know war with the United States is catastrophic and all but guarantees an Iranian defeat.

Besides, you aren't even American, this isn't even your war. You wont get drafted because there are plenty of people who would happily sign up for this fake war.

"things that seemed outrageous a few years ago dont make it to the news" [Citation required]

Plenty of outrageous things still make it to the news, for example how our DACA is about to die in the supreme court made it to the news. Sure, most Americans saw it and paid no attention, but we can attribute it to it being news of little importance. Even to DACAs the news is of little importance because we all know DACA is temporary. We all rely on DACA to work, live, drive, but we are not ignorant that it can be taken at any moment, for any reason, by any president, over anything.

However my main point is not that we dont care about DACAs termination, at least I do care. My point is that the termination of DACA plus a democrat failure to help us out DURING an election year will cause the democrat base to become furious. They will indeed come to our aid.

You say they wont come to our aid because there are more pressing issues. There are always more pressing issues, that won't change. If you want to make a list, we are probably after climate change, student loan reform, prison reform, equal pay reform, but before the next drought. I strongly urge the DACA community to remain strong, keep faith, build up a little nest egg of savings and prepare for DACA termination.

You are absolutely right that republicans would be happy to let us get screwed over, but that doesn't make them fools. What would be foolish, is to waste a tremendous bargaining opportunity over the dems. That does not mean they will wave the deal carrot around, because as we both know most republicans are of the "Deport them all as violently as possible" camp, whereas the "Let them stay camp" is concerned with extracting as many concessions as possible from democrats.

You are underestimating the power of Dreamers. You’re saying there will be media uproar for 2 days regarding an issue that is the topic of a case that’s currently on the table of the highest court in the land. Dreamers can’t be messed with, we are they key that will lead to broader CIR one day and the immigrant groups know this.

Lol you really think people will care that much? They won’t it’ll be a two day media field day with lots of thoughts and prayers. You’re delusional if you think otherwise but then again you’re the same person who was riding Clinton’s Dick then moved to trumps.


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Why are you trying to undermine Dreamers? This is a Dreamer forum. We want legalization of Dreamers. Go somewhere else if you don’t want that. You are just fucking upset that Dream Act still stands a chance. Any move against Dreamers and you get voted out. You will find out in November when Democrats fall flat on their face for giving away billions for the wall and getting nothing for us.

And UWD doesn’t want the border wall you retardo!

From the guy who literally posts shit like this