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Possible EO to kill DACA soon? - Page 3

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#21
07-06-2020, 11:10 PM
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Democrats offered Trump $25 billion for the wall in exchange for DACA. He agreed and then turned it down. These are facts. I don't understand your logic, we are in this mess because of the republican party.

Next time before opening your mouth remember this quote from a real patriot:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
Yep, Trumpanzee himself was offered a fair deal, Dream Act for 25B for the wall. He said no because Miller thinks that he could get his 4 pillars for fucking Bridge Act.
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An hero.

Good he is doing this, hopefully it all moves quick and forces congress into fixing us once and for all.

Willing to pay thousands for whatever fines we get to pay and getting ready to vote republican for the rest of my life. And if it fails its going to be the democrat scum fault flat out. Compromise needs to be done.

Being neutral is supporting your opposition? Christ. The minuscule brain sizes of some....
It's funny you would vote republican for life and blame democrats for not compromising. I never seen a more disgusting party than the republican party. Maybe if it hadn't been immigration I would of been close to a republican but now I would never vote republican. Can't wait to see the two party system collapse.
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Remember when presidents used to speak like this:
Reagan's last speech to America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R8QxCD6ir8
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Trump is an idiot. If he only pivoted slightly to the middle, he would win reelection. Give us green card and you will win! Do it!
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Yep, Trumpanzee himself was offered a fair deal, Dream Act for 25B for the wall. He said no because Miller thinks that he could get his 4 pillars for fucking Bridge Act.
And in the end will get nothing.

They have built THREE NEW MILES of fencing and repaired 90 miles of the existing fence. It's truly laughable.
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I could be wrong but I don't think that the supreme court needs to wait or can be challenged on this specific topic anymore, the supreme court has already decided that Trump has the right to end DACA but needs to give a reason why. What is not clear to me is how soon would the court take to review Trump's re-filing (explaining why he is ending DACA). So two possible scenarios IMO:


Scenario 1

Trumps re-files and the Supreme court kills DACA before the 2020 election. Trumps makes a deal with the Dems to fix DACA and a) The Dems offer nothing less than the full dream act and Trumps take it, yay!, b) Trump offers some shitty deal that covers almost no one and the Dems take it, almost no chance this will happen IMO specially knowing that the Dems could possibly do very well in November and c) Trump and the Dems fight and blame each other but nothing happens (most likely scenario IMO)


Scenario 2

Trumps re-files and the Supreme court kills DACA after the 2020 election and a) The Dems win bigly in November and pass the dream act (or a version of it) with the help of some republicans senators b) The Dems win in November but they can't pass anything because they don't have enough support of republican senators to get 60 votes or c) Trump wins again in November and since he is not running again he does nothing for DACA.

Analysis,

I believe Trumps is hoping for Scenario 1a or 1b, his polls are in the trash and he only cares about winning, if he offers DACA for his Wall and gets it done then he would gain support from the left and the right. Trump has said in the past that one of the reasons Obama won his re-election is because he "gave a gift" (DACA) to the Latino community just before the election.
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I could be wrong but I don't think that the supreme court needs to wait or can be challenged on this specific topic anymore, the supreme court has already decided that Trump has the right to end DACA but needs to give a reason why. What is not clear to me is how soon would the court take to review Trump's re-filing (explaining why he is ending DACA). So two possible scenarios IMO:


Scenario 1

Trumps re-files and the Supreme court kills DACA before the 2020 election. Trumps makes a deal with the Dems to fix DACA and a) The Dems offer nothing less than the full dream act and Trumps take it, yay!, b) Trump offers some shitty deal that covers almost no one and the Dems take it, almost no chance this will happen IMO specially knowing that the Dems could possibly do very well in November and c) Trump and the Dems fight and blame each other but nothing happens (most likely scenario IMO)


Scenario 2

Trumps re-files and the Supreme court kills DACA after the 2020 election and a) The Dems win bigly in November and pass the dream act (or a version of it) with the help of some republicans senators b) The Dems win in November but they can't pass anything because they don't have enough support of republican senators to get 60 votes or c) Trump wins again in November and since he is not running again he does nothing for DACA.

Analysis,

I believe Trumps is hoping for Scenario 1a or 1b, his polls are in the trash and he only cares about winning, if he offers DACA for his Wall and gets it done then he would gain support from the left and the right. Trump has said in the past that one of the reasons Obama won his re-election is because he "gave a gift" (DACA) to the Latino community just before the election.
Option C: Biden can just withdraw the repeal. If DACA is rescinded properly via substantive regulation depending on when the end of the 60 day is: before January 20th - put another substantial regulation out withdrawing the repeal of DACA, after January 20th - just cancel it. EO would just get tangled in another lawsuit and become moot come January 20th, would be easy argument too: Trump was told to do it this way and decided to do something else, give us an injunction because this tard can't follow simple instructions.

Also, Trump's wrong in one thing. Obama "gave a gift" because democrat aligned latino and other immigrant groups were threatening to sit out the election (not that they would in a million years vote for Romney). There isn't a fucking thing he can possibly to make this group consider voting for him or sitting it out. Even clean fucking CIR wouldn't wipe away the last 4 years of nothing but shit.
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07-07-2020, 11:16 AM
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Option C: Biden can just withdraw the repeal. If DACA is rescinded properly via substantive regulation depending on when the end of the 60 day is: before January 20th - put another substantial regulation out withdrawing the repeal of DACA, after January 20th - just cancel it. EO would just get tangled in another lawsuit and become moot come January 20th, would be easy argument too: Trump was told to do it this way and decided to do something else, give us an injunction because this tard can't follow simple instructions.

Also, Trump's wrong in one thing. Obama "gave a gift" because democrat aligned latino and other immigrant groups were threatening to sit out the election (not that they would in a million years vote for Romney). There isn't a fucking thing he can possibly to make this group consider voting for him or sitting it out. Even clean fucking CIR wouldn't wipe away the last 4 years of nothing but shit.
He should still do CIR though.
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He should still do CIR though.
He should but he's still gonna be unemployed come January 20th. He's probably throwing around hamberders around the oval office trying to rile up the local nazis while forgetting that what pushed him over the finish line was a bunch of white moderates that wanted change without really caring what change was, 4 years later they know that the Trump version of change was shit, unemployment, and a pandemic.
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He should but he's still gonna be unemployed come January 20th. He's probably throwing around hamberders around the oval office trying to rile up the local nazis while forgetting that what pushed him over the finish line was a bunch of white moderates that wanted change without really caring what change was, 4 years later they know that the Trump version of change was shit, unemployment, and a pandemic.
I hope you are right but I am not too confident.. Still too many educated whites support him. Hell, I know plenty Indians who do too... It is a cult!
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