Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay - Page 33

Originally Posted by pink

I Don't really want to add insult to injury but, I have stayed away from this site for months simply because I was totally disgusted at how some on here literally became pro trump overnight The minute that lunatic got elected. I guess some thought if only they said positive things now about agent orange Trump was going to save them.

It finally dawned on me as to why us immigrants become and stay political footballs year after year as a lot seem to have zero loyalty to any party who gives a quarter of a Shit about them and their plight.. Some literally were making the case for why they don't deserve any politician putting their necks on the political chopping block for them. The minute they get any kind of status They will turn on a dime and support the party that is blatantly anti immigrant because now that they already have their foot in the door it is now time to keep the other immigrants from getting in. The others still looking for status start turning on each other groveling for scraps from the right wing party who despises them. Maybe they feel republicans will have a heart if they act like good little undocumented immigrants and say positive gushy things about their scum bag president. I don't mean to minimize the position we are all in as it is a desperate one and I know desperate time calls for desperate measures but why anyone in their right state of mind would think trump was gonna be the same or better for dreamers is mind boggling, they must have been was sipping on some ice cold Foolaid. It is this type of BS that helped trump get elected. You would think the way he dogged out Hispanics he wouldn't have gotten a single vote from them but surprisingly -yes he did.

I hope this is a political distraction from the Russian scandal and hopefully trump won't follow through but I have zero optism as Trump is literally satan incarnate.

Originally Posted by pink

I Don't really want to add insult to injury but, I have stayed away from this site for months simply because I was totally disgusted at how some on here literally became pro trump overnight The minute that lunatic got elected. I guess some thought if only they said positive things now about agent orange Trump was going to save them.

It finally dawned on me as to why us immigrants become and stay political footballs year after year as a lot seem to have zero loyalty to any party who gives a quarter of a Shit about them and their plight.. Some literally were making the case for why they don't deserve any politician putting their necks on the political chopping block for them. The minute they get any kind of status They will turn on a dime and support the party that is blatantly anti immigrant because now that they already have their foot in the door it is now time to keep the other immigrants from getting in. The others still looking for status start turning on each other groveling for scraps from the right wing party who despises them. Maybe they feel republicans will have a heart if they act like good little undocumented immigrants and say positive gushy things about their scum bag president. I don't mean to minimize the position we are all in as it is a desperate one and I know desperate time calls for desperate measures but why anyone in their right state of mind would think trump was gonna be the same or better for dreamers is mind boggling, they must have been was sipping on some ice cold Foolaid. It is this type of BS that helped trump get elected. You would think the way he dogged out Hispanics he wouldn't have gotten a single vote from them but surprisingly -yes he did.

I hope this is a political distraction from the Russian scandal and hopefully trump won't follow through but I have zero optism as Trump is literally satan incarnate.

Originally Posted by cmartinez

I disagree. I hate this assumption that immigrants (particularly undocumented immigrants) should lean democratic. Yes, the democrats tended to support us, but we are also not helpless little creature who will support whoever says nice things about us. We are thinking, intelligent beings bwith diverse experiences and diverse political opinions.

I tend to lean a bit more conservative, yet still disagree with how republicans have treated immigration and many other issues. We are bound to the democrats right now by our circumstance of being undocumented. That does not mean that we don't have the capability to think, change opinions, and disagree ideaologicall with democrats on many issues.

Originally Posted by pink

I Don't really want to add insult to injury but, I have stayed away from this site for months simply because I was totally disgusted at how some on here literally became pro trump overnight The minute that lunatic got elected. I guess some thought if only they said positive things now about agent orange Trump was going to save them.

It finally dawned on me as to why us immigrants become and stay political footballs year after year as a lot seem to have zero loyalty to any party who gives a quarter of a Shit about them and their plight.. Some literally were making the case for why they don't deserve any politician putting their necks on the political chopping block for them. The minute they get any kind of status They will turn on a dime and support the party that is blatantly anti immigrant because now that they already have their foot in the door it is now time to keep the other immigrants from getting in. The others still looking for status start turning on each other groveling for scraps from the right wing party who despises them. Maybe they feel republicans will have a heart if they act like good little undocumented immigrants and say positive gushy things about their scum bag president. I don't mean to minimize the position we are all in as it is a desperate one and I know desperate time calls for desperate measures but why anyone in their right state of mind would think trump was gonna be the same or better for dreamers is mind boggling, they must have been was sipping on some ice cold Foolaid. It is this type of BS that helped trump get elected. You would think the way he dogged out Hispanics he wouldn't have gotten a single vote from them but surprisingly -yes he did.

I hope this is a political distraction from the Russian scandal and hopefully trump won't follow through but I have zero optism as Trump is literally satan incarnate.

Originally Posted by tabi

can we have your stuff? sounds like youre leaving.

Originally Posted by jaylove16

Howard Dean just said that if DACA is not fixed legislatively , apart from a clean debt ceiling hike , the democrats won't cooperate with republicans on ANYTHING else . Something positive will come out of all this for us.

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667

No, I am being realistic here.

We have a republican congress that cannot even pass its own agenda. Even Tax reform will be hard to pass.

This 6 month delay is the worst possible scenario. In this six months, we will be attacked and time will bury the urgency in the minds of people. 6 months from now no one will remember DACA is even a thing that ever was.