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Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt - Page 4

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Democrats were losing momentum before the HCR. Democrats are very much in control. You stated that Dems will take majority and that was my point. Either way we have bi-partisan support on CIR/DREAM Act.
No, I really don't think it looks like the Democrats are in control. It seems to me that one person is in control, and that is a Republican named Graham.

You are overestimating Obama's electioneering prowess. His help did nothing for Martha Coakley in Massachusetts. The reason he seemed so persuasive in 2008 is because everybody was talking about how "historic" the election was, which gained Obama a lot of votes from sectors of the population who will not vote for Democrats the next time around.

Obama is no longer Zeus throwing thunderbolts from Mount Olympus. Health Care Reform exposed him as just another politician. Hell's sake, he had to pass McCain's health reform bill to get anything done on the issue! Whatever happened to his single-payer option? It went the way of his approval ratings. Because voters--and the masses in general--are very fickle, many people will vote an opposite way in 2010 than what they did in 2008. This is the exact reason why McCain has flip-flopped so much in the last two years: he is trying to catch the coattails of the masses, and because he is late in doing that, his attempts look mostly bungled and manufactured to everybody who is looking on.

For all these reasons, it is almost a guarantee that the Democrats will lose some seats in the coming election, even if they don't lose control of either house. Do you understand how rare it is in American history for one party to control the presidency, and both houses of Congress with a super-majority in the Senate? The only really comparable times are during and after the Civil War, the 1930s, and the 1960s.

Each of those periods were times of crisis that do not compare to today. In all of those periods, the party in charge made major strides to fix major social problems that the country had not meaningfully addressed for decades. So if you really believe the Democrats will gain seats and immigration reform will be easier after the election, you are seriously deluding yourself. The full weight of American history is against you. If CIR does not pass, it will be entirely the fault of the Democrats who could have taken the initiative at a unique moment in history when they had super-majorities in Congress and could have solved a major and unfair social issue in the manner of what the Republicans did with slavery in the 1860s, or what the Democrats did with Civil Rights in the 1960s.
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