Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week - Page 4

Holy cow, no exactly details and you guys are already decided who is more deserving than who?

Normally I take a bite in but this time, i am just not feeling it

well there's an article on huffpost that's based off of this article right here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6148900.html and at the bottom it says

so i'm assuming the plan isn't yet to be finalized. hopefully daca parents will be included... like some people in this forum have said i agree it makes the most sense to include people by the length of their stay foremost.

In all likelihood, this is a leak meant to gauge reaction. This way, if there is a strong backlash, the president can backtrack a bit and go for a smaller number; or if it's weak, it may go as planned.

As was mentioned above, this is politics and Obama is entering what is probably unknown terrain. This executive action may cut multiple ways. Republicans will go apeshit, that's for sure. What is not certain is who is going to get wounded by this.

The Republican reaction might be so extreme that it splinters the party and alienates mainstream public opinion and minorities. Or alternatively, public opinion might recoil at what it sees as lawlesness on the part of the President; this in in turn might make various Republican countermeasures from court challenges to government shutdowns to impeachment politically feasible and popular and that's obviously something Obama would rather avoid.

To me the latter part is a real danger and that's why it seems to me that Obama will choose the most legally and politically defensible action he could take. This means that in all likelihood, the number would be less rather than more.

And I am saying that as someone who stands to gain by the executive action being more rather than less.

I recently did come across an article that said that the Obama administration is using two key factors, time in America and family ties in making the decision. People who have been here for a long time (for example 5-10 years or so) and have followed all rules, paid all taxes, good moral character are fully deserving of some sort of legal rights just like DACA beneficiaries!

I hope they go by time. I know what being left out feels like (been here over 25 years) and I don't wish that on anyone that has been here that long while being good people.

no Military for DACA?

This will probably be controversial. But if we're all focused on getting as many to benefit without completely "going overboard" as the repubs say (even though 1 extra permit is going overboard for them), wouldn't only giving this to parents of USCs benefit more people than just parents of DACA? I don't know the numbers. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Lets assume we can only have one or the other. keyword: assume. If it makes you feel better, lets speak hypothetically.

Do not confuse me as anti-daca or pro-anchor baby.

Thats what I was thinking. I thought there were more undocumented people with US born children here than DACA only. More mixed status families.

Yes, there are more parents of USCs: approximately 4 million. There are around 1 million parents of DACA beneficiaries.

I think everyone should remember that this could be challenged in court. If parents of DACA beneficiaries are left out, he simply feels as though that portion of the EO would not stand after a court challenge.

Please refrain from using the term anchor baby. It's disgusting rhetoric we are better than. This is a warning. If it is the cause of further discord, infractions will be handed out.

That's why I think there may be parts missing in the article. Military enlistment of DACA beneficiaries has been a hot topic, so it's still possible that can be included in his plan.

Well, we don't know the exact details yet. And at the very least they got you.