A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigration - Page 4

godsavethequeen · 06-30-2017, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

Here's comes the worse damage control ever

"I've actually lurked here for years !! I win I am done. I won't engage anymore but I'll continue to reply ". You must think you're unique here

By the way there is a ignore function here if you can't control your urge to reply to me. Please keep all personal insults to PM and I'll reply as soon I can

Probably because there is no gain from a pointless online debate. What is it going to accomplish? Stroke egos? What we're supposed to do is unite and not fall to pure pessimism because that's pure weakness. Yes, our situation might be difficult and there are many hurdles involved but we shouldn't give up so easily to the point where you want us to lose.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 06-30-2017, 11:29 PM

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libertarian1776 · 11:53 PM

lmao you are like the biggest supervillain in these forums dude. its good tho, u and 2face are polar opposites! u balance each other out in rhetoric.

all good tho, you are like the milo yiannopolous of the dreamers. lol (u a dreamer but you secretly hate us also)

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2Face · 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776

lmao you are like the biggest supervillain in these forums dude. its good tho, u and 2face are polar opposites! u balance each other out in rhetoric.

all good tho, you are like the milo yiannopolous of the dreamers. lol (u a dreamer but you secretly hate us also)

He is a fake DACA recipient as Trump would say...a complete disaster. I mean..dude has no heart for DACA recipients on here. He told one poster yesterday something fucked up like "Well losing DACA won't really affect you..you make a lot of money." He comes out creeping out of the woodwork whenever someone posts an article about Trump "cracking down on immigration." He also advocates for "citizenship for all" including those with DUI records. He was also railing against Dreamers last year and telling them they "shouldn't feel entitled to anything." SMH.

fl_dreamer · 07-01-2017, 01:35 AM

everyone, lets stay on the topic!

undoconyc · 07-01-2017, 06:11 AM

I have sympathy for everyone here but we have to admit that DACA is unconstitutional. All legislative powers belongs to Congress according to the constitution. Obama/Trump cannot make law on their own. However, legislative relief is in order and very possible. Once the courts recind DACA (which they most certainly will) then we fight for legislative relief. It's not rocket science.

freshh. · 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by undoconyc

I have sympathy for everyone here but we have to admit that DACA is unconstitutional. All legislative powers belongs to Congress according to the constitution. Obama/Trump cannot make law on their own. However, legislative relief is in order and very possible. Once the courts recind DACA (which they most certainly will) then we fight for legislative relief. It's not rocket science.

We will have to agree to disagree. The SC commented on this in the SB1070 ruling. Obama within the scope of his presidential authority to issue DACA.

Notably, President Obama issued his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) order permitting many young undocumented immigrants to remain in the country on June 15, 2012. Arizona was decided on June 25, 2012. So the idea that the president might use his power to grant a broad class of undocumented immigrants new rights via an executive order would have been very much on the justices’ minds at the time that Justice Kennedy wrote language into the Arizona decision laying out the breadth of the executive branch’s discretion.

Where the shit gets murky is the Attorney General's involvement. And we, unfortunately, have Sessions.

BeeHive · 07-01-2017, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by freshh.

We will have to agree to disagree. The SC commented on this in the SB1070 ruling. Obama within the scope of his presidential authority to issue DACA.

Notably, President Obama issued his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) order permitting many young undocumented immigrants to remain in the country on June 15, 2012. Arizona was decided on June 25, 2012. So the idea that the president might use his power to grant a broad class of undocumented immigrants new rights via an executive order would have been very much on the justices’ minds at the time that Justice Kennedy wrote language into the Arizona decision laying out the breadth of the executive branch’s discretion.

Where the shit gets murky is the Attorney General's involvement. And we, unfortunately, have Sessions.

Can you explain the article you just posted?

jaylove16 · 07-02-2017, 01:23 AM

U.S. Rep. Beto O'Rourke, D-El Paso, said Paxton's letter underscores the need for Congress to put the program into law.
"There's an opportunity for Congress here, but to be honest with you it's an opportunity that's existed for a while that we've been unable to act on, in large part because the discussion has been dominated by uninformed fears of Mexico, the borders and Mexicans," he said. "If you look at the facts, you find that DACA beneficiaries, or Dreamers, have been a very significant part of the success of the state of Texas and communities like Texas."

https://www.caller.com/story/news/po...its/440721001/

undoconyc · 07-02-2017, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freshh.

We will have to agree to disagree. The SC commented on this in the SB1070 ruling. Obama within the scope of his presidential authority to issue DACA.

Notably, President Obama issued his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) order permitting many young undocumented immigrants to remain in the country on June 15, 2012. Arizona was decided on June 25, 2012. So the idea that the president might use his power to grant a broad class of undocumented immigrants new rights via an executive order would have been very much on the justices’ minds at the time that Justice Kennedy wrote language into the Arizona decision laying out the breadth of the executive branch’s discretion.

Where the shit gets murky is the Attorney General's involvement. And we, unfortunately, have Sessions.

Thanks for the info. I agree that the President has the right to temporarily stop deportations but the power too issue work permits and Social Security cards is under the sole authority of Congress. Because of this the lawsuit may be successful.

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A group of Republican attorneys general is picking a fight with Trump on immigration - Page 4