Senator Dick Durbin - Page 4

Chill bro noone is gonna take serious our opinions we are just a bunch of illegals in a forum. it is their decision to change the current system to a merit base system to keep being relevant and compete against other countries

LMFAO!!! Yes “a Dream Act version”... Nice try though. A for effort. Now wipe the foam off your mouth.

Well said. Some people here are delusional thinking that it's ok to overhaul the whole immigration system for 690K illegals. Not to mention that even trying to address it complicates this clusterfuck even further.

They haven't been able to find a solution for the Dreamers in five months. What makes people think that they're going to be able to come up with parameters for the merit system in a couple of weeks?

What do you think Dreamer relief is if not a version of the Dream Act?

Really, I am not interested in your trash writing. Ignore my posts.

Anybody knows what is the age gap to the proposals being discussed? Is it 16 or 18?

If you are talking about trumps framework which they want to turn into a bill no. They didn't give an age of entry nor date we have to wait till they end negotiations.

Me temporarily being the libertarian1776 of this thread:
Damn. You all need to calm down. I understand everyone is on edge and pissed off about the inaction but attacking each other isn’t really going to accomplish anything besides making others feel even worse. We all have opinions but at the end of the day, the opinions of 536 people (if you don’t count Presidents Kelly and Miller) are the ones that matter. Whether or not family reunification is ended or not is something we have no control over and we’re just going to have to make do with what happens. Also, I highly doubt Dick Durbin will ever come across this thread.

Really tells you how easily people turn once they get theirs. They don't even have anything and already are trying to say who should be here and who shouldn't.


Trumps proposal didn't ask for everify and morons here were calling for it

Regarding your first paragraph: Definitely, a solution that has both would be ideal. The proposed reform has said that for immediate family members, they will be allowed to bring their husband/wife and children. I think that parents should be allowed in too(if not being some type of visa, which they can already have, but one that lasts longer), but I think that allowing that person to sponsor a brother/sister who is over the age of 21 should not be allowed. The reason being that it would be hard for the brother/sister to support themselves here. Maybe a system where 80% of the immigrants have to come from the merit based pool, while the rest come from those who apply regularly(do not need merit based qualifications to apply) is a good starting point.

2nd Paragraph: Definitely, if you work hard or show that you have academic success, then I would not consider it hypocrisy. If you do not do any of these two things, then you should not be saying anything about wanting a merit based system. For me, it has always been if you work hard or have the talent, then you should be giving a chance, if you do not, too bad. I once proposed here that Dreamer's need to have a GPA higher than a 2.0, and I got killed for it. I said that because of all the Dreamers that I know, about close to half do not even care about school. They would rather work in the jobs that our parent's work in(landscaping, cleaning homes, construction) than go to college or find a decent vocational job. And no on is saying that Dreamer's have to have jobs in STEM, just an AS degree or a good vocational job will do. Same thing with the merit based system, one where if you show that in your previous country you have graduated from secondary school in good standing, and you have a skill(whether you got a degree or show that you have a good skilled job) then you should be able to emigrate.

Paragraph 3: I already talked about the bottom half of your comment. For US citizen's, it would not matter if the majority do want a merit based system. Listen, some US citizens will get screwed regardless of what law you put up because that is how it is. With Obamacare, some could not get the same coverage while others got coverage, without Obamacare, some will get better coverage while others will lose it.

Paragraph 4: I welcome any immigrant, aged out dreamer, future dreamer that has the drive/talent to want to do well.

Also, why do you keep using extreme examples? No one is talking an extreme position where only those who have an IQ of 150, have PHD, will be allowed to join. Or that every immigrant that comes here will cure cancer, aids, solve world hunger.

If you are talking about me, my position regarding a merit based system still holds regardless if we get relief or not. I do not want them to rush in and make a merit based system so soon. It definitely takes time to come up with a good solution, and rushing in bills is a bad thing.