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#31
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Democrats didn’t anything for those years they controlled the government!
I wonder how we got DACA in 2012? Must be the GOP pushing really hard for it!
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If I were a Trump adviser I would advice him to immediately offer the dream act (which is the minimum the House Dems would consider at this point) for 25 Billion for the wall.

With these two items he could portrait himself as a hero for his base and and a Hero for the Hispanic community, which altogether would increase his chances to get re-elected.

Off course this is not going to happen because we live in a George Costanza world where everyone does everything the opposite of what makes sense lol.

But even Trump does this, he would still have to deal with the hard left Dems (whom would want all sort of crazy additions to the Bill, add parents, other immigrants etc.) and the hard left Reps (whom would also want to add crazy additions to the bill: eliminate family based immigration, increase deportations, etc.)

Sadly enough I think passing something before November has greater chances than passing something in the future, specially because the Republicans, Trump would benefit if something passes now.

After the election and Even if Biden wins and the Dems keep the house, the turtle will still hold the senate and he will not allow a vote on anything related to immigration. And I don't even want to think what would happen if Trump wins again.
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If I were a Trump adviser I would advice him to immediately offer the dream act (which is the minimum the House Dems would consider at this point) for 25 Billion for the wall.

With these two items he could portrait himself as a hero for his base and and a Hero for the Hispanic community, which altogether would increase his chances to get re-elected.

Off course this is not going to happen because we live in a George Costanza world where everyone does everything the opposite of what makes sense lol.

But even Trump does this, he would still have to deal with the hard left Dems (whom would want all sort of crazy additions to the Bill, add parents, other immigrants etc.) and the hard left Reps (whom would also want to add crazy additions to the bill: eliminate family based immigration, increase deportations, etc.)

Sadly enough I think passing something before November has greater chances than passing something in the future, specially because the Republicans, Trump would benefit if something passes now.

After the election and Even if Biden wins and the Dems keep the house, the turtle will still hold the senate and he will not allow a vote on anything related to immigration. And I don't even want to think what would happen if Trump wins again.
Democrats can swing the senate tbh. They need a net of +3 seats if they also snag the presidency (since VP is the tiebreaker for control).
AL - Doug Jones is most likely toast so that puts it at 4 seats they need to snag.
CO - Cory Gardner is toast. There's no sugarcoating this one.
ME - Susan Collins is probably toast, polls coming out of ME aren't great for her and the only reason why the race is still rated as toss-up is because she's a 4 term senator and democratic senate primary hasn't taken place yet (June 12th) so they kinda have to do Collins vs Generic Democrat.
AZ - Rated lean D. The McSally lost the 2018 election for the other seat, she's running against a very popular democrat.
NC - Thom Tillis is very unpopular back home, a popular democratic governor is also running for re-election.

Other stuff that's on the board are IA, MT, GA special, and maybe KS depending on who wins the republican primary since everyone's favorite Nazi Kobach managed to lose the governor seat to a democrat.

That being said, this will probably be a tight election for the senate and not a 2006 style blowout.
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I supported the Dems up until they showed that they have no balls standing up to their Leftist militant groups that want to ridicule everyone into race wars and denounce people simply cause they don't think the BLM movement has or will affect change in policing.

I've actually been pro-life for a while so another Trump term would be much better, and I dont support Socialist/Communist ideology. It's suicide!

My family left Mexico BECAUSE of weak police and rampant criminal activity.

I'll ride Trump's dick now forever if it means we will get back to normalcy.

Plus MSNBC and CNN are horrible "news" networks. They spend most of the time having "opinion" anchors tell American how to think and feel.

They were harrassing people for not social distancing but now they are clapping in unison for protesters to go out. I just don't buy it.

I read and watch all sources of news, and by far the Left is the most dangerous to our society and rule of law.

Just remember this:

Obama and the Democrats controlled Congress from 2009-2011 and did nothing to pass comprehensive immigration reform out of fear of LOSING the midterms because us undocumented immigrants are only political pawns, just look how they distributed the stimulus check and denied mixed status families relief (where was the ire and outrage on the Dem side on this?)

And now they are telling legal immigrants that they will deliver? Most Latino citizens don't even vote, and there are millions of LPRs that qualify for citizenship but because of complacency and ignorance (not wanting to learn English, like my mother thinks) don't even apply for that.

I think all of America is getting tired of being called out as racist and insensitive just for expressing simple ideas. I was ridiculed by friends on facebook for saying that I don't think law enforcement is all bad.

The mob rule is here and they want power. If I have to get deported to deny them that, I will.
Even in Mexico I would fight the Left. Everyone should fight the Left. All groups of people and nationality deserve the right to determine their own future, not socialist/cummies that believe that capitalism must be abolished and the male/female gender spectrum be broken down to appease the extreme movement of "nonbinary" freaks.

I'll take my chances with Orange dude.

We must take the streets back from criminals and left wing nuts!
Lol normalcy under trump. Your life must sucked pre trump era. If trump wins again we be out of daca so you can’t even suck trump dick. More like on the corner sucking trump supporters dick for $5 a pop.
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I hope so but I am wary of saying this so early. November is still a long time away and anything can happen til then. The media and everyone shouldn’t act like Biden has this in the bag. Did they not learn anything from 2016? I would be treading with caution. Also, I don’t think there will be any immigration relief with the Trump administration especially with Stephen Miller. They will ask for too much like last time and Trump will look to energize his base and they don’t exactly love immigrants.
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I supported the Dems up until they showed that they have no balls standing up to their Leftist militant groups that want to ridicule everyone into race wars and denounce people simply cause they don't think the BLM movement has or will affect change in policing.

I've actually been pro-life for a while so another Trump term would be much better, and I dont support Socialist/Communist ideology. It's suicide!

My family left Mexico BECAUSE of weak police and rampant criminal activity.

I'll ride Trump's dick now forever if it means we will get back to normalcy.

Plus MSNBC and CNN are horrible "news" networks. They spend most of the time having "opinion" anchors tell American how to think and feel.

They were harrassing people for not social distancing but now they are clapping in unison for protesters to go out. I just don't buy it.

I read and watch all sources of news, and by far the Left is the most dangerous to our society and rule of law.

Just remember this:

Obama and the Democrats controlled Congress from 2009-2011 and did nothing to pass comprehensive immigration reform out of fear of LOSING the midterms because us undocumented immigrants are only political pawns, just look how they distributed the stimulus check and denied mixed status families relief (where was the ire and outrage on the Dem side on this?)

And now they are telling legal immigrants that they will deliver? Most Latino citizens don't even vote, and there are millions of LPRs that qualify for citizenship but because of complacency and ignorance (not wanting to learn English, like my mother thinks) don't even apply for that.

I think all of America is getting tired of being called out as racist and insensitive just for expressing simple ideas. I was ridiculed by friends on facebook for saying that I don't think law enforcement is all bad.

The mob rule is here and they want power. If I have to get deported to deny them that, I will.
Even in Mexico I would fight the Left. Everyone should fight the Left. All groups of people and nationality deserve the right to determine their own future, not socialist/cummies that believe that capitalism must be abolished and the male/female gender spectrum be broken down to appease the extreme movement of "nonbinary" freaks.

I'll take my chances with Orange dude.

We must take the streets back from criminals and left wing nuts!
You gotta be trolling lol
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You get an award for being the biggest dumb fuck in the history of dumb fucks. Where can I send your certificate, you blind brain dead piece of fuck.
Damn! you beat me to it lol Its amazing how stupid some lurk these forums, DACA or No DACA, stupid runs rampant.
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I hope so but I am wary of saying this so early. November is still a long time away and anything can happen til then. The media and everyone shouldn’t act like Biden has this in the bag. Did they not learn anything from 2016? I would be treading with caution. Also, I don’t think there will be any immigration relief with the Trump administration especially with Stephen Miller. They will ask for too much like last time and Trump will look to energize his base and they don’t exactly love immigrants.
Definitely. Dems have to continue working like Biden is 10 points down.
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The Democrats have lost the senate.

-Maine: Flips Dem (D+1)

Republican Susan Collins will most likely be helped by Biden's margin. She might even be the night's upset victory of the toss-ups.

The democratic candidate will squeak a victory. This will be the ONE senate election to watch to see signs of a Republican wave.

-Alabama: Flips Republican (R+1)

Democratic Doug Jones.

Whoever wins the Republican primary will win. Trump's high turn out in rural areas will be massive.

-North Carolina Stays Republican (0)

Republican Tom Tillis. Again, Trumps turnout with Republicans will outpace the Biden/Harris ticket.

-Colorado Flips Democrat (D+1)

Republican Cory Gardner. He will probably lose since Colorado yuppies are eating up this whole race war.

-Arizona Flips Democrat (D+1)

Republican McSally. She will probably lose. Arizona will be the only state that Democrats will flip from Republicans/Trump.

-Montana Stays Republican (0)

Republican Steve Daines. He will most likely win reelection against Democrat Governor Steve Bullock. Im sure its going to be a close race but the Trump base will out perform the other side.

-Iowa: Stays Republican (0)

Republican Ernst will defeat the Democratic opponent. Rural Iowa will come out in droves.

-Kansas: Stays Republican (0)

Whoever wins the Republian nomination will win. Maybe easier for a non Coback but either way rural Kansas are not gonna care about George Floyd and the race war.

So a total of only +2 seats, which means the Senate will be 51 GOP-49 Dem,

Best case scenario is 50-50 which will give us political junkies a high.

Anyway, this is my OPINION and I probably misspelled stuff.

I just don't see how Biden wins Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin.

Biden will only flip Arizona

Trump 279-Biden 259.

Just watch.

It's gonna be 2016 shock all over again lol

The Republicans will fix DACA and immigration, but not UWD style of legislation.

I smell a great legal latino support for Trump. People are tired of having to accept that their property shouldn't mean anything and all should burn in the name of BLM while 40 million who lost their jobs cause of shutdowns.

Where were the riots for us when we lost the DREAM Act vote? Anyone that thinks yelling in your face and calling all white people racist is gonna win you converts to your cause is wrong.

We must acknowledge that most of these protesters are young radicalized students eating "social justice" crap. They hate capitalism and are sneaking the race war in.

Where's my social justice? Will I get a check? Which country or race should I blame for Mexico's failing?

When they call us "brown people" (the Left) they are assuming all Latinos are the same color. Like wtf?

I can't wait to see how this allllll turns out!
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Yep Trump will win and will prove himself to be the real #TeflonDon
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