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Proposed DACA Rule from DHS Seeks to Codify Program - Page 4

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#31
11-17-2021, 11:07 AM
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yes because we are so special and the only ones who deserve anything..../s
in case you haven't notice we all are on the same boat.
they can easily give DACA recepients greencards 1st and then slowly progress into giving others as well instead of all 8 mil or nothing deal that UWD wants
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11-18-2021, 12:03 AM
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they can easily give DACA recepients greencards 1st and then slowly progress into giving others as well instead of all 8 mil or nothing deal that UWD wants

F*ck that! I am an older aged out DACA immigrant who is sick and tired of hearing that everybody else who came here after us should get relief while the rest of us wait in the back for eternity. It's all or nothing at this point, FOH with that selfish BS.
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11-18-2021, 12:09 AM
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yes because we are so special and the only ones who deserve anything..../s
in case you haven't notice we all are on the same boat.
This! I have been a member of this board for years and this has always been the running theme here. Parents are thrown under busses, older dreamers etc while selfish posters keep trying to make the case that only they deserve relief and expect that the people who they don't give a shit about should root for them when they only care about themselves. Imagine telling people that everybody who came after you deserve to skip the line and that somehow they deserve more relief than you do. Insanity. I'm rooting for everybody and anybody with an ounce of decency would feel the same way.
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11-18-2021, 12:16 AM
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I agree!!

Everyone who has been here giving and risking, and surviving deserves a chance and ability to get permanent residency. And ALL essential workers deserve a path to citizenship. I saw the reports of two patients who passed away last month from COVID. People just don't get it. This virus is horrible. Naivity is what has kept millions going. If only they knew how much risk they put themselves and their families over producing in this country.
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I agree!!

Everyone who has been here giving and risking, and surviving deserves a chance and ability to get permanent residency. And ALL essential workers deserve a path to citizenship. I saw the reports of two patients who passed away last month from COVID. People just don't get it. This virus is horrible. Naivity is what has kept millions going. If only they knew how much risk they put themselves and their families over producing in this country.
The question comes in to play is what is considered an essential employee.. I am pretty sure anyone who worked during the pandemic would consider themselves essential which is almost every undocumented person
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The question comes in to play is what is considered an essential employee.. I am pretty sure anyone who worked during the pandemic would consider themselves essential which is almost every undocumented person
DHS already crrated the categories deemed essential.
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DHS already crrated the categories deemed essential.
Just went through their list and it looks like everyone is an essential worker
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they can easily give DACA recepients greencards 1st and then slowly progress into giving others as well instead of all 8 mil or nothing deal that UWD wants
That's messed up. If I had a choice, I will give status to our parents and older DREAMers before us. They are more deserving.
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That's messed up. If I had a choice, I will give status to our parents and older DREAMers before us. They are more deserving.
If I had a choice, I would give it to us first.
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11-18-2021, 04:35 PM
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That's messed up. If I had a choice, I will give status to our parents and older DREAMers before us. They are more deserving.
I applaud you for your empathy but I feel the dems should grow a set and push for as many to be legalized as possible. As an older dreamer (43) I and many others in my age group don't have the luxury of time and this is not meant to take anything away from the younger dreamers because I think it's essential to also make sure younger dreamers get relief because of the obvious, getting into college at an appropriate age and jump starting their careers etc. Where things become unfair specifically with regards to the age cap in dream or policies pushing for only dreamers is what happens is more recent immigrants who are coming through the border end up benefitting more than the people who have been languishing here for years. I think President Obama meant well but adding that age 30 cap to DREAM and then trying to help the rest with DAPA was a bit of a fail.

The dream act was typical piecemeal policy that rewards very few and thats ok in a sense, better some get something than we all suffer. The downside though is it allows lowered expectations and the urgency to do anything for most immigrants waiting for relief including dreamers themselves specifically the ones who aged out. The issue gets kicked down the road while backlash to serious reforms on the right and even on the left builds because in their minds president Obama essentially gave amnesty to all with the Dream act. We all know that is BS but that has never stopped republicans from acting like Democrats gave all immigrants the World with the dream act .

Even us as dreamers keep falling into this false dichotomy that if only the dems did as little as possible for the least amount of people that somehow that's the way to go and we would all be better off when all it does is take the pressure and urgency off of gov to do anything significant. We keep acting like we haven't all seen the GOP constantly exaggerated and pluck things out of thin air to campaign on and stoke anti immigrant fear and rage. Most of us with two brain cells to rub together know that 12 million illegal immigrants who are working at home depot and out in fields picking lettuce and apples could not possibly be sucking off enough money from the government to disenfranchise a population of 300 million people but that has never stopped republicans from running on lies.
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