Obama sees early 2010 start on immigration reform - Page 5

The problem is that advocates of CIR who support the dream act will not fight for the piecemeal approach. Enforcement advocates always go for piecemeal whenever they can get it. I just hope CIR supporters will learn from them.

Yes, it could. It just depends on the bill, and the political climate early next year.

There is no way republicans can gain a majority in either house next year, except an unexpected event happens (ie.Terrorist attack). Even if with that, they would have to gain more than 40 seats in the House. That has never happened in US history, and it won't happen because the Republican brand is in the gutter. Let's not even mention the Senate, because the republicans are in a bad position with so many retiring members. If the economy continues to improve and a heath care bill passes, they will be a minority party for quite a while. That is why they are trying to kill reform. (See 1930s-1940s)

The worst thing that can happen is if some sort of independent party pops up. This is actually a great time for one to show up, since people uncomfortable with the Obama administration need somewhere to go. They don't see democrats as effective, but they definitely wont jump back to the republicans.

The only hope for republicans is them killing off the toxic part of their part, and actually being a real conservative party. I'm not really sure what the republican party currently is, but they aren't true conservatives. (See conservative).

I don't think that is where the concerns lie in this respect.The Democrats campaigned they were ready to lead from day 1 & currently have NO inhibitions as it relates to numbers to get through legislation.Should a few Republicans win back the Senate they could likely not be moderate at all & compound the problems of getting our legislation through.

I think as it stands right now that Dream act must pass in the Senate this year because on the fence Senators up for re-election next year will not want to vote for the bill,which are votes we require.I think the rumored effort in 2011 seems more legitimate as time goes on.....

Anyway,a video can be found over at Politico of what the President said on immigration at the summit so everyone can make their own opinion instead of relying just on the article.

Seriously... forget about CIR for the moment... I mean no offensive... DREAM Act is eaiser to pass.. let's get some pressure and pass the DREAM ACT... at least let the kids have legal status, and help their families out...
CIR is going to take a long time... think!!!!

How is DA easier to pass? The main focus for CIR is the path to legal status.

Well, election year is not the best year, and i agree with that part.

But the situation is different than before. Based on experience over the last 8 years, CIR has never been brought up in election years, but lets not forget that democrat didn't have majority up until 2006 and then even then they had a very small majority.

Now they have a super majority. So thus CIR/DA could be brought up.

Why do people keep on forgetting that CIR was voted on and passed the senate in 2006 when the republicans were in charge of the senate?

I almost cannot stand this. Now everyone is writing that the chance for reform was missed (sadly, I agree).

Most folks probably missed President Barack Obama's strategic retreat this week on comprehensive immigration reform.

It was pretty easy to miss. Town halls, wing nuts, health care, "I'm not channeling my husband... yada, yada, yada. Those are pretty big media distractions.

Besides, how many firefights on different fronts can anyone engage in at the same time and expect to win?

But here's what happened Monday. And this quote (below) shows how quickly political capital and focus can erode and why timing is everything.

"The longer the healthcare debate drags out not only does it make it harder to get healthcare passed, it makes it harder to get immigration passed," says Mark Krikorian, executive director of the conservative Center for Immigration Studies.



Krikorian met with the DMN Editorial Board about three months ago, and seemed pretty certain that Obama was going to be able to push something though on immigration reform. I'm sure he wouldn't have liked a lot of it, but he was reading tea leaves and sensing that the discussion would gain steam and the White House would have the wil and support to fight the battle

Well, that was before the heath care firefight, which is consuming an enormous amount of time and political capital -- and still we haven't begun the nuts-and-bolts discussion, a real devil-in-the-details analysis, not the "throw grandma from the train" insanity that is currently thwarting legitimate debate.

I'd love Obama to tackle immigration reform sooner than later, but he clearer lacks the troops, or at least, the troops with the chops to do it. I think he's learning that you can't do everything at once, and that the cost of fighting especially brutal political battle could cost several other legislative initiatives. I'm not sure the administration even has the will to try and push small reforms through Congress in piece-meal fashion, and they're sure not eager for the big battle now. Maybe DeMInt's hinting that health care could be Obama's Waterloo isn't so far fetched. And it sure expalins why the health care battle has gotten especially dirty.

Immigration reform is again on the back burner and won't moving anytime soon.

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so it could happen in a democratic congress in 2010 too .