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05-26-2012, 10:02 PM
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The time has come to face the music. This is going to be the final YAY or NAY for DA. The House will decide the bills final fate and seal the decision forever in the history books. Therefore we must fight the good fight to ensure our bill gets the chance it deserves. Better to go down having fought and campaigned tirelessly for passage. No regrets later. Awaiting the CBO's analysis desperately.
What makes you think this is the final? No one even expected the new DA to be introduced this election year especially by a GOP made Rubio. 2007 and 2010 and now DA is back again.

Democrats will most likely take back the House this November which means Pelosi would then be the majority speaker again and that means it is time for Durbin's DA. Either way, DA is going to pass. The question is:

Will it be Rubio's DA or Durbin's?
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05-26-2012, 10:33 PM
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Ok guys, from what i know, you can only join the military if you're a permanent resident (green card) or citizen. Rubio's DA does not grant you that, but only a visa. The original DA grants you conditional residency, which WILL let you join the military (trust me). So if Rubio's DA passes, he will have to manipulate some military requirements in order to let us join.
The military requirements aren't too hard to get past. 10 U.S.C. 504(b) states that people have to be citizens, nationals, permanent residents, or other aliens:

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Notwithstanding paragraph (1), the Secretary concerned [DoD, for Army, Navy, Marines, or Air Force, or DHS, for Coast Guard] may authorize the enlistment of a person not described in paragraph (1) if the Secretary determines that such enlistment is vital to the national interest.
When they publish regulations to implement the DREAM Act or Rubio's bill in the Federal Register, they'd make clear that the DoD and DHS interpret 10 U.S.C. 504(b)(2) to include DREAM Act or Rubio beneficiaries.
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05-26-2012, 11:27 PM
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Correct me if Im wrong, but wouldnt it be the same for the original DREAM Act. Under the DREAM Act we would be granted 6 years of "conditional permanent residency" to complete 2 years of college or military. Conditional permanent residency doesnt mean we'll get a green card, does it? So under the DREAM Act the military would also have to change their recruitment process?
Well, there are already other conditional permanent residency statuses in the law books. I believe that when you marry a USC/LPR you have conditional LPR for 2 years. If you are still married (or in some cases divorced, but with good reason) after 2 years it gets bumped up to an unconditional LPR.
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05-26-2012, 11:29 PM
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When they publish regulations to implement the DREAM Act or Rubio's bill in the Federal Register, they'd make clear that the DoD and DHS interpret 10 U.S.C. 504(b)(2) to include DREAM Act or Rubio beneficiaries.
I bet you that they'd actually pass the DA without any mention of a paragraph like this.

I hate to be a cynic but:

a) pass a bill that on the surface is a great humanitarian action
b) get votes
c) ??? (here ??? is get elected)
d) bill doesn't actually help anyone, sit back and laugh
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05-27-2012, 04:56 AM
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funny how i wrote a thread on how Rubios bill is full of shit and just marketing hype to fuck with Dem support, and yet, a bunch of ppl commented supporting the stupid Rubio articles, im glad this came out, lets see how many stand by their choice when he's very clearly just teasing us with what we want to hear but from his Uhh umm responses, u can tell he hasnt even given it much thought, aka lied all along and we ate it up
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05-27-2012, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hollisterco View Post
funny how i wrote a thread on how Rubios bill is full of shit and just marketing hype to fuck with Dem support, and yet, a bunch of ppl commented supporting the stupid Rubio articles, im glad this came out, lets see how many stand by their choice when he's very clearly just teasing us with what we want to hear but from his Uhh umm responses, u can tell he hasnt even given it much thought, aka lied all along and we ate it up
We're only guilty of wanting relief. It's obvious they will use our cause as a incentive for Hispanic voters, or a political weapon aimed to discredit Democrats, but just maybe it will come out, and just maybe it won't be so bad. It's best to talk about it from all sides.
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