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Graham sees potential for deal to end shutdown - Page 5

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12-30-2018, 06:14 PM
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The difference is that a lot of us — if not most of us — have no memories of ever living anywhere but this country. Some of us do not even speak the language of the country we come from and even the decision to come here was not our own. Returning to our “home country” would be a death sentence.

We are very clearly in a different situation than the immigrants you mentioned and the only reason we are even in the discussion to have a chance st legalization is because most Americans agree that we did did not choose this life.
All Dreamers are in a special situation, which is why we need the Dream Act.
I agree with you that Dreamers did not choose to come here (though we choose to stay) and that we are Americans by another name.

I disagree with the binary of more deserving/less deserving of status narrative because is false. We need status based on the fact that we have grown up in this country, not because you got an employment card six years ago. It is false and definitely not a winning argument.
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people here still trynna pick what kind of relief they gonna get? lmao y’all think ur in a buffet line?

yall mfers are gonna apply be it the bridge act or a clean dream act.

or we aint gonna apply to nothing at all!
Lmao. They gonna be the first ones in line to apply.
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lmao u hate DACA and DACAers so bad... T_T

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I disagree with the binary of more deserving/less deserving of status narrative because is false. We need status based on the fact that we have grown up in this country, not because you got an employment card six years ago. It is false and definitely not a winning argument.
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lmao u hate DACA and DACAers so bad... T_T
What an intellectually lazy response - you know damn well how flawed advancing the idea that 'other' immigrants are less deserving has hurt the undocumented community.
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i never said anything about other immigrants are less deserving.

it was just an observation from non-DACAers on this forum = “If we are not included, nobody should get included.”
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What an intellectually lazy response - you know damn well how flawed advancing the idea that 'other' immigrants are less deserving has hurt the undocumented community.
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Let's go back to the topic. I think Graham's proposal will be an interesting deal.. I hope Democrats won't crave. If they have to bring in TPS, DACA must receive similar benefits!

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Graham suggested on CNN's "State of the Union" a "three-year one-time renewable work permit for the DACA population" could be included in a potential deal, which was part of the BRIDGE Act Graham and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) previously introduced in the Senate. Graham also suggested action could be included to protect visas for individuals with expiring Temporary Protected Status (TPS).

"So, basically $5 billion for the wall, plus the BRIDGE Act, TPS and some legal changes to do away some of these magnets to illegal immigration ... might save the day in the Senate," he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-includes-daca

A 3 year one time renewable work permit with no travel privileges does nothing for us.
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Graham suggested on CNN's "State of the Union" a "three-year one-time renewable work permit for the DACA population" could be included in a potential deal, which was part of the BRIDGE Act Graham and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) previously introduced in the Senate. Graham also suggested action could be included to protect visas for individuals with expiring Temporary Protected Status (TPS).

"So, basically $5 billion for the wall, plus the BRIDGE Act, TPS and some legal changes to do away some of these magnets to illegal immigration ... might save the day in the Senate," he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-includes-daca

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Yes. Just keep Daca than.
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We've all been here before. There are roughly 800,000 DACA recipients. The deal that was proposed earlier this year for $25 billion in wall funding for legalization of dreamers would have come out to $31,250 per dreamer. I don't know about you guys but if you offered me a green-card for that price-tag, I'd buy it right now. Frankly, I could care less what Trump decides to build. I'd give him any amount of wall funding for greencard.

But, democrats, will never make a deal for us. We are just their pawns in their political game.

The conversation is very simple:

Mr. President, what would you want in return for legalization of the dreamers?

I want money for my wall!

Done deal!
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Yes. Just keep Daca than.
Attach AP! NO BRIDGE Act.
I wish I could have a conversation with him directly.
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