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Today's not a good day for you brosef. You need to log out and go on a long walk. Why is an illegal like you telling refugees to "stay home."? You sound ignorant as hell. You're a "beggar" remember? You just called us beggars who should't be choosing. What makes you entitled to tell refugees to "stay home"? Nobody is agreeing with you on that one here. Like just take a look at how fucking stupid you sound. How do a bunch of beaten up and abused people "develop their own nation"? Are you that ignorant? What if someone said "those dirty Dreamers, they should develop their own countries and move there"? Live and let live. SMH.
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This is the same argument ethno-nationalists use against us...."They need to go back home and develop their own countries."
you people are so wrong.
how do you not understand the difference between a refugee, that more than likely didn't come here as a litte kid, and a dreamer, that has only ever lived and grown up in america.
if i remember correctly, refugees are given a temporary stay, so i'm not exactly sure why the sympathy if they've always known they'd have to leave eventually.
america is not the daycare of the world.
taking in one group after another won't help develop countries.
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08-06-2017, 06:52 PM
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Today's not a good day for you brosef. You need to log out and go on a long walk. Why is an illegal like you telling refugees to "stay home."? You sound ignorant as hell. You're a "beggar" remember? You just called us beggars who should't be choosing. What makes you entitled to tell refugees to "stay home"? Nobody is agreeing with you on that one here. Like just take a look at how fucking stupid you sound. How do a bunch of beaten up and abused people "develop their own nation"? Are you that ignorant? What if someone said "those dirty Dreamers, they should develop their own countries and move there"? Live and let live. SMH.
Nope, today is an excellent day. It's only a bad day for Trump Supporters who also happen to have DACA. I'm not telling refugees to stay anywhere, their TPS has ended, so they must leave.

I really don't know what they were expecting with the TEMPORARY protected status.

How do they develop their nation? I dunno, same way all nations have been developed. By getting to work in rebuilding and in remaking their nation. Beaten up? If they have been beaten up they may qualify for U-Visa.

Seems like plenty of people are agreeing with me. Temporary does indeed mean temporary, and that means they gotta go home. Abused? They've certainly been abused by hillary clinton, who pocketed the aid money for their nation.

Well hey, this "beggar" is happy that his DACA isnt some form of Temporary-set-in-stone-expiry-date-having situation.

If they said that us dirty DACAs should develop our own nations, I'd say "great, hand me a shovel." Face the music, the US is our home, but not the home of the Haitians. That place is called Haiti.

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we the same as refugees dumass
You might be, but I'm not, my home is the US.

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This is the same argument ethno-nationalists use against us...."They need to go back home and develop their own countries."
Its not that they need to develop it, its that they need to completely rebuild it. Letting all the land sit there uselessly is a waste, and they would be much happier without the specter of soon-to-end TPS haunting them.

Also, all the Syrian refugees should go home and finish the fight. How come poland and germany after being stomped flat in ww2 with barely any standing structures managed to rebuild itself into a primary refugee destination, but these haitians cannot manage to rebuild even with all the aid money?

Nation Building is not hard. Heck, even in Mexico, we've given them shelter, so don't say im pushing them out of anywhere. They are perfectly welcome in the Mexican Homelands.
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08-06-2017, 06:58 PM
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you people are so wrong.
how do you not understand the difference between a refugee, that more than likely didn't come here as a litte kid, and a dreamer, that has only ever lived and grown up in america.
if i remember correctly, refugees are given a temporary stay, so i'm not exactly sure why the sympathy if they've always known they'd have to leave eventually.
america is not the daycare of the world.
taking in one group after another won't help develop countries.
tps is not a refugee um hello its in the name temporary it was made for ppl to have a safe place in bad times and then they can return. refugees get green cards 1 year after their app has been accepted and they usually come from fucked up countries like el salvador and syria where its corrupt as fuck and the situation is not going to change.
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08-06-2017, 06:59 PM
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Nope, today is an excellent day. It's only a bad day for Trump Supporters who also happen to have DACA. I'm not telling refugees to stay anywhere, their TPS has ended, so they must leave.

I really don't know what they were expecting with the TEMPORARY protected status.

How do they develop their nation? I dunno, same way all nations have been developed. By getting to work in rebuilding and in remaking their nation. Beaten up? If they have been beaten up they may qualify for U-Visa.

Seems like plenty of people are agreeing with me. Temporary does indeed mean temporary, and that means they gotta go home. Abused? They've certainly been abused by hillary clinton, who pocketed the aid money for their nation.

Well hey, this "beggar" is happy that his DACA isnt some form of Temporary-set-in-stone-expiry-date-having situation.

If they said that us dirty DACAs should develop our own nations, I'd say "great, hand me a shovel." Face the music, the US is our home, but not the home of the Haitians. That place is called Haiti.


You might be, but I'm not, my home is the US.


Its not that they need to develop it, its that they need to completely rebuild it. Letting all the land sit there uselessly is a waste, and they would be much happier without the specter of soon-to-end TPS haunting them.

Also, all the Syrian refugees should go home and finish the fight. How come poland and germany after being stomped flat in ww2 with barely any standing structures managed to rebuild itself into a primary refugee destination, but these haitians cannot manage to rebuild even with all the aid money?
if ur home is the us then apply for the military and tell that ice after daca is ended. im sure they wont deport you bc u came here as a kid

last time i checked mexico is not bad and its one of the best countries in latin america. as an honduran i wish i was raised there.
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08-06-2017, 07:02 PM
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tps is not a refugee um hello its in the name temporary it was made for ppl to have a safe place in bad times and then they can return. refugees get green cards 1 year after their app has been accepted and they usually come from fucked up countries like el salvador and syria where its corrupt as fuck and the situation is not going to change.
he was the one referring to them as refugees not me.
syria is getting better, what are you on about.
and countries being corrupt and having a bad situation isn't the US's fault.
nor the people living here, it's not their responsibility to take care of people just cause their countries are in a bad situation.
if the citizens of those countries can't fix their problems over there, there's bigger problems to deal with than them just coming here.
el salvador isn't like cuba, where the government themselves is actively working against you.
you have too little faith in these people.
they can change their countries for the better, it's not impossible.
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08-06-2017, 07:04 PM
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Nope, today is an excellent day. It's only a bad day for Trump Supporters who also happen to have DACA. I'm not telling refugees to stay anywhere, their TPS has ended, so they must leave.

I really don't know what they were expecting with the TEMPORARY protected status.

How do they develop their nation? I dunno, same way all nations have been developed. By getting to work in rebuilding and in remaking their nation. Beaten up? If they have been beaten up they may qualify for U-Visa.

Seems like plenty of people are agreeing with me. Temporary does indeed mean temporary, and that means they gotta go home. Abused? They've certainly been abused by hillary clinton, who pocketed the aid money for their nation.

Well hey, this "beggar" is happy that his DACA isnt some form of Temporary-set-in-stone-expiry-date-having situation.

If they said that us dirty DACAs should develop our own nations, I'd say "great, hand me a shovel." Face the music, the US is our home, but not the home of the Haitians. That place is called Haiti.


You might be, but I'm not, my home is the US.


Its not that they need to develop it, its that they need to completely rebuild it. Letting all the land sit there uselessly is a waste, and they would be much happier without the specter of soon-to-end TPS haunting them.

Also, all the Syrian refugees should go home and finish the fight. How come poland and germany after being stomped flat in ww2 with barely any standing structures managed to rebuild itself into a primary refugee destination, but these haitians cannot manage to rebuild even with all the aid money?

Nation Building is not hard. Heck, even in Mexico, we've given them shelter, so don't say im pushing them out of anywhere. They are perfectly welcome in the Mexican Homelands.
reminder that the vast of majority of "refugees" from syria and other middle eastern countries are men of fighting age 18 years of age or older.
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he was the one referring to them as refugees not me.
syria is getting better, what are you on about.
and countries being corrupt and having a bad situation isn't the US's fault.
nor the people living here, it's not their responsibility to take care of people just cause their countries are in a bad situation.
if the citizens of those countries can't fix their problems over there, there's bigger problems to deal with than them just coming here.
el salvador isn't like cuba, where the government themselves is actively working against you.
you have too little faith in these people.
they can change their countries for the better, it's not impossible.
thats like me saying why should the us take in 800000 daca ppl who can better their countries. they studyed and have skills so it can solve a brain drain of their countries. ur sounding like a trumptard
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thats like me saying why should the us take in 800000 daca ppl who can better their countries. they studyed and have skills so it can solve a brain drain of their countries. ur sounding like a trumptard
the difference is that DACA people have no other home.
what don't you get about this concept.
it's not that hard to grasp. and some of the DACA people that were deported are already improving mexico by being given teaching jobs, so what's your point?
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reminder that the vast of majority of "refugees" from syria and other middle eastern countries are men of fighting age 18 years of age or older.
This is indeed true. The women have taken up arms and are fighting for their homeland.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isi...-syria-n199821


Apparently if an ISIS fighter is killed by a woman they go strait into islamic hell, which i presume is much much worse than christian hell.
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the difference is that DACA people have no other home.
what don't you get about this concept.
it's not that hard to grasp. and some of the DACA people that were deported are already improving mexico by being given teaching jobs, so what's your point?
no jodas. everyone has family in their home countries unless there some kind of oprhan
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