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Pelosi Rejects Trump’s DACA Proposal - Page 6

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01-19-2019, 11:07 PM
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Guys,

I UNDERSTAND that we want something permanent. But, Trump is not going to give you something permanent for $5 billion. He will demand the full $25 billion. Anyone want to bet Democrats are willing to agree to that NOW? AT THIS POINT OF TIME?

SHIT IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. Higher chance of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse showing up.

Hell, we are lucky if this shit even passes with the $5 billion Trump is asking. If you guys are expecting something permanent right now, my two cents that shit is not going to happen prior 2020.
The thing is it’s 5.7 billion up front meaning he will have a lot of wall done before the election year. And it’s not only 5.7 billion its total like 11 billion upfront
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If we were on capital hill all problems of the country would be solved by the end of the week in a massive bill of fixes.

Every single problem. We'd have a problem with congress not having anything to do.
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Guys,

I UNDERSTAND that we want something permanent. But, Trump is not going to give you something permanent for $5 billion. He will demand the full $25 billion. Anyone want to bet Democrats are willing to agree to that NOW? AT THIS POINT OF TIME?

SHIT IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. Higher chance of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse showing up.

Hell, we are lucky if this shit even passes with the $5 billion Trump is asking. If you guys are expecting something permanent right now, my two cents that shit is not going to happen prior 2020.
He can ask but doesn't make a lot of sense for democrats to take it. 25 bil for DACA relief was when democrats didn't control the majority of anything.
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what i want dont matter... bro at the end of day, all the shit we talk about here dont matter.

yall act like ur the ones negotiating on the Hill. why tf are u guys negotiationg in a forum? you guys gonna send these transcripts to your representatives?

all of you are gonna apply to whatever shit they pass.
Smooth and I know Hilario (Dreamer who has been talking on Fox News). He has been taking input from us. These conversations will make the difference. Like I have some former Dreamers on my fb who are immigration lawyers who have a lot of undocumented/immigrant clients who are staunchly against any sort of compromise (all because of their personal gain). They need to be put to their place. They support "Clean Dream Act." They are saying it openly. They are selfish AF.
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Smooth and I know Hilario (Dreamer who has been talking on Fox News). He has been taking input from us. These conversations will make the difference. Like I have some former Dreamers on my fb who are immigration lawyers who have a lot of undocumented/immigrant clients who are staunchly against any sort of compromise (all because of their personal gain). They need to be put to their place. They support "Clean Dream Act." They are saying it openly. They are selfish AF.
Here's an idea for you to pass onto hillario:

Fines for Dreamers, who are primarily of Mexican descent qualify as Mexico paying for the wall, gets Trump wall money, and get us something nice in return.

For those 5 billion he's been talking about it comes out to a reasonable 7k.
31K per DACA gives him his full wall money.
$6944.4444444 per Dreamer gives him his full wall money.

I want Dream Act in Exchange.
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Here's an idea for you to pass onto hillario:

Fines for Dreamers, who are primarily of Mexican descent qualify as Mexico paying for the wall, gets Trump wall money, and get us something nice in return.

For those 5 billion he's been talking about it comes out to a reasonable 7k.
Sure. But I don't think its about the Wall any more. I think Democrats have a trust issue with the admin and they don't want to give him a win. Clearly there is never going to be a brick/rock wall.
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Sure. But I don't think its about the Wall any more. I think Democrats have a trust issue with the admin and they don't want to give him a win. Clearly there is never going to be a brick/rock wall.
It can pay for all the border security they will ever agree on. Pass it on, get the numbers double checked.

Run new numbers. Let us make this happen.
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From the start I have said that the best case scenario was going to be the BRIDGE ACT and the worst case scenario was going to be nothing.

At this point right now we are most likely heading towards nothing. Lucky for us DACA still stands and we will probably make it past 2020. However 2020 isn’t a guarantee deal that victory will head our way.

At this point though I don’t see Nancy Pelosi compromising on a realistic deal even with something permanent offered to us.

Immigration activist have way too much influence on her and they are pushing for her to pass a clean Dream Act with TPS and no border security. Obviously that it’s an unrealistic proposal that will be dead on arrival.
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Guys,

I UNDERSTAND that we want something permanent. But, Trump is not going to give you something permanent for $5 billion. He will demand the full $25 billion. Anyone want to bet Democrats are willing to agree to that NOW? AT THIS POINT OF TIME?

SHIT IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. Higher chance of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse showing up.

Hell, we are lucky if this shit even passes with the $5 billion Trump is asking. If you guys are expecting something permanent right now, my two cents that shit is not going to happen prior 2020.
90% of what you say are curses, yells and not getting laid shit, but I’ll agree with you that we’re bound to see the 4 horseman of the Apocalypse before seeing legalization. We had a chance back when Schumer offered $25B for WALL-DACA exchange. Of course, destiny had to fuck us over and Trump rejected. Now, Trump feels the heat and says he will make a deal. But of course, Destiny says, “I’ll be dammed if y’ll get legal”, so now that Trump wants to play ball, of course the Dems feel embolden by the election and screw us over as destiny. Kids, don’t feel down, don’t feel surprised. This thether has gone on since I remember. I remember when Specter voted “Aye” on CIR. You know where he is? Dead!
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From the start I have said that the best case scenario was going to be the BRIDGE ACT and the worst case scenario was going to be nothing.

At this point right now we are most likely heading towards nothing. Lucky for us DACA still stands and we will probably make it past 2020. However 2020 isn’t a guarantee deal that victory will head our way.

At this point though I don’t see Nancy Pelosi compromising on a realistic deal even with something permanent offered to us.

Immigration activist have way too much influence on her and they are pushing for her to pass a clean Dream Act with TPS and no border security. Obviously that it’s an unrealistic proposal that will be dead on arrival.
^This.

Like she even believes in a clean dream act. Dems have been saying they are for border security. lmfao
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