Trump says he will renew effort to end DACA protections - Page 6

I think the case in the Texas court is more of a threat to ending DACA before the election than Trump trying to rescind DACA for a 2nd time before the election.

Trump definitely has a shot. It's uncommon for presidents to lose a 2nd term. There's a book called keys to the white house and the guy predicted 8 out of 9 elections with 13 different criteria for winning the WH. It's well thought out in my opinion and so far with the economic and social unrest, Trump is failing on some criterias now that he wasn't failing before 2020.

Add to that...during crisis situation (COVID) I really think incumbent has upper hand. Just like George Bush beating John Kerry (I believe Iraq War was going on).

He hasn't tried to unite the country. he is going to have to do that if he wants to win. He is not doing well with independents.

Those are external and out of sight and out of mind. It doesn't affect the average American.

This is very different. It affects Americans and deaths are happening everyday. Cases in the south are going up. Florida, Arizona, and Texas are reporting the highest amount of cases since the pandemic. 2 of the biggest economic engine states (Texas and California) are on the cusp of closing again. Stores that opened are now closing again. People can't go to their favorite stores, people have lost their jobs, once the federal aid runs out and the FED doesn't want to / can't pump the market anymore, shit's going to hit the fan. There's also a fear of a 2nd wave when the weather gets colder and that's right before election time.

You are right that there's a rally around the flag effect in disasters and gives a boost to approval rating. But a sustained disaster and very little is done to fix it is not going to help his approval rating.

You can deflect some blame to China but it doesn't answer why the US has one of the highest cases in the world. China doesn't have jurisdiction on US soil. People having coronavirus parties, no respect for social distancing or masks (some security guard got killed for asking someone to wear a mask at the dollar store), protesters, people feel like they have to work or lose benefits which spreads the virus, high healthcare costs, etc.

If you're talking about wild fires, hurricanes, wars that take place outside of the US, most Americans don't care. It doesn't affect them. This is totally different. It affects the people they know / love, their own health, and their jobs. Every single American today is affected by this and the longer it drags out, the worse it is for leaders in office today.

You guys don’t get it. Trump has been playing 4D chess since before he even decided to run for president. He positioned himself in such a way that he will win regardless of anything. His base just keeps growing. They’re unstoppable. All the polls are wrong. He will win all 50 states in November.

Those only work if you actually manage to at least get some unity and everyone on the same page. Regardless of how Bush ended up doing, at the onset of 9/11, he united America during a time of crisis. Trump did the exact opposite. And he even had 2 chances to do that, COVID and BLM, and he bungled both. He managed to divide the country even more both times. So I don't even know how that crisis situation comparison even applies.
Eh not really. The Texas court case will still have to go through loops with appeals until it reaches SCOTUS just like last time. If last time was any indication, that's another 3 years before we know the result. That can at least buy us time, or ride through to a potential Biden presidency in a good scenario.

Trump rescinding DACA a 2nd time can happen right away if he goes through the proper channels.

2Face already has his ticket and red hat ready for the Tulsa rally this weekend. Coronapalooza

But it'll take longer. He has to follow the APA this time. There's also comment period and some other stuff and all that adds up to sometime after the election.

This particular case in Texas is about the constitutionality of DACA, and a whole different approach. SC only ruled on how the Trump administration failed to follow the APA. The case has been in court of awhile so it's not starting from nothing. Time frame wise, this has more of a realistic shot at effecting DACA before the election.

Well the comment period is 60 days I believe. So assuming his administration gets on it right away, there's a possibility it'll be done before elections if they choose, which is stil about 4.5 months away.

As far as the court case, even though it's been in the courts for a while, there was never a ruling, since Hanen decided to see what SCOTUS does first. Assuming this still gets pushed forward now, even if theres a ruling in Texas, just like the last case, other states might step in to appeal and place an injunction on stopping DACA. Which again, will still go through the courts about the same way as the last case until it reaches SCOTUS.