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White House Releases A Statement - Page 7

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#61
02-16-2018, 12:29 AM
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Trump won the immigration debate when he offered us citizenship. I don't think anyone expected a citizenship offer for 1.8 million. Regardless of who you blame for our current situation, Trump won the immigration debate. He made the magnanimous offer. Dems are now seen as having rejected the big citizenship offer. Dems have no balls to use any leverage they might have, and they just voted against our only hope of survival. I hate Trump as much as your average human being, but he DID make us the best real offer we have ever received from any party. Democrats, who were supposed to have our back, rejected the best offer we have ever had. Now we are all screwed. As much as I hate Trump, he fucking offered us citizenship and the spineless democrats rejected it. Now I hate everyone, but I blame the democrats more this time.
No one I know or work with blames Democrats. Trump and the White House complained that Congress won't just write their bill, instead of signing a bipartisan bill that achieved the main goal of protecting all Dreamers and the wall.

Democrats have to hold their ground about not continuing to sign mulltiple CRs. The organizations on the ground are preparing for primaries.
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02-16-2018, 12:30 AM
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I am sorry but I really think that you are incapable of understanding what is going on. There was no 5 year visa for Dreamer parents. It was a 5 year visa for all parents of united states citizens whom hold a foreign passport. So yeah, if you did not blink an eye and was able to become a united states citizen in 12 years, then your parents could have gotten a 5 year visa....

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Trump’s Proposal was tough but fair.

Even had 5 year visas for parents.

Dems really dgaf about dreamers.
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02-16-2018, 12:31 AM
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Who's making all these WH statements? The make absolutely no sense; "secure our borders and secure our immigration system" why would our immigration system need to be secured? Is someone plan to steal it? Lol

Also, if the most bipartisan bill failed in the Senate today why would the Goodlatte bill, an extreme right bill has a chance?

Trump and his lunatics clearly do not know what the f they are doing.
Its total chaos over there. There's a priebus interview with vanity fair and no matter how crazy it appears its actually crazier behind the scenes
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02-16-2018, 12:32 AM
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If they are so horrible as you say they are, then why did you apply for it? why are you getting all the benefits it provides? Obama was already pushing it with DACA alone but you somehow expected him to give you a DACA on steroids? You’re trying so hard to sound like a victim here yet you are BENEFITING from it, makes no sense.

Did you forget he also try to give you a 3 year permit and try to include our parents as well but instead got blocked by a judge because of a REPUBLICAN lawsuit?

Dtrt09 can you tell copper why dapa didn't become law please
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Who's making all these WH statements? The make absolutely no sense; "secure our borders and secure our immigration system" why would our immigration system need to be secured? Is someone plan to steal it? Lol

Also, if the most bipartisan bill failed in the Senate today why would the Goodlatte bill, an extreme right bill have a chance?

Trump and his lunatics clearly do not know what the f they are doing.
This administration is full of crooked, corrupt, racists, bigots, and liars. Every month somine in tbeir payroll is found to have lack of character and committed crimes involving $$ or assault.
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If they are so horrible as you say they are, then why did you apply for it? why are you getting all the benefits it provides? Obama was already pushing it with DACA alone but you somehow expected him to give you a DACA on steroids? You’re trying so hard to sound like a victim here yet you are BENEFITING from it, makes no sense.

Did you forget he also try to give you a 3 year permit and try to include our parents as well but instead got blocked by a judge because of a REPUBLICAN lawsuit?
They only started eDACA to get votes in 2014. They slowly tried to keep our votes. It stopped working. Why wouldn’t I take advantage of any program? They do it for selfish reasons so why wouldn’t I take advantage of it for selfish reasons too? I’m not saying they are bad people or republicans are bad people, we are not victims lol, we are entitled to nothing, but putting dems on a pedestal or claiming they have a moral higher ground is stupid. All politicians are the same (for better or worse).
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Dtrt09 can you tell copper why dapa didn't become law please
He doesn’t need to tell me, it was blocked because it violated the Administrative Procedure Act, which ironically it was this same ruling that brought us back DACA. However the lawsuit was brought in by REPUBLICANS, don’t you forget that.
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He doesn’t need to tell me, it was blocked because it violated the Administrative Procedure Act, which ironically it was this same ruling that brought us back DACA. However the lawsuit was brought in by REPUBLICANS, don’t you forget that.
She doesn't need to tell you.

It was the lack of notice and comment - the APA.
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I am sorry but I really think that you are incapable of understanding what is going on. There was no 5 year visa for Dreamer parents. It was a 5 year visa for all parents of united states citizens whom hold a foreign passport. So yeah, if you did not blink an eye and was able to become a united states citizen in 12 years, then your parents could have gotten a 5 year visa....
Still better than uncommon sense which has nothing on dreamer parents
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This administration is full of crooked, corrupt, racists, bigots, and liars. Every month somine in tbeir payroll is found to have lack of character and committed crimes involving $$ or assault.
Just because they don’t agree with your views doesn’t make them bigots or racists lol.
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