‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address. - Page 8

Originally Posted by Carpenter86

Agreed, but if you think of it, Astrid Silva has a golden chance to speak in front of America's most power people to sell our cause, I think it's important that she's taking this opportunity.

We have people from both side of the aisle in our favor, and they need to be vocal and take every opportunity they have. If there's a Republican group in favor of comprehensive immigration reform, they also should speak up. If there are non profits raising awareness, great, if some of us don't agree with the way they are doing things, instead of complaining in an internet forum, we should be trying to join the fight and change things.

I applaud those who risk their anonymity and safety to fight for this, I don't think I have this courage. While we are "safe" with our DACA, people are getting round up by ICE for the most stupid and little things, I have undocumented famiy members who are afraid, even my 9 year old, who's an American citizen, understands what's going on and is also afraid.

Again, I understand everyone's concerns, it's a delicate matter, and I also understand that Trump is a hard individual to deal with, but someone has to speak up and do something. I rather give Astrid Silva the benefit of the doubt and criticize her only if I see a reason to it.

Originally Posted by Carpenter86

Agreed, but if you think of it, Astrid Silva has a golden chance to speak in front of America's most power people to sell our cause, I think it's important that she's taking this opportunity.

We have people from both side of the aisle in our favor, and they need to be vocal and take every opportunity they have. If there's a Republican group in favor of comprehensive immigration reform, they also should speak up. If there are non profits raising awareness, great, if some of us don't agree with the way they are doing things, instead of complaining in an internet forum, we should be trying to join the fight and change things.

I applaud those who risk their anonymity and safety to fight for this, I don't think I have this courage. While we are "safe" with our DACA, people are getting round up by ICE for the most stupid and little things, I have undocumented famiy members who are afraid, even my 9 year old, who's an American citizen, understands what's going on and is also afraid.

Again, I understand everyone's concerns, it's a delicate matter, and I also understand that Trump is a hard individual to deal with, but someone has to speak up and do something. I rather give Astrid Silva the benefit of the doubt and criticize her only if I see a reason to it.

Originally Posted by biscuitneck

You guys are hilarious.

This speech won't have even the slightest impact on what Trump will or won't do with DACA.

He knows who you are. He knows where you live. He knows who your parents are. He knows where you work. He knows how many of you have had DACA revoked. He knows the majority of you aren't criminals. He knows you want reform. He knows everything about this program.

Whatever he is going to do with DACA, he's going to do it.

Stop worrying about shit you cannot control. Go to work, play by the rules, and stay out of trouble. If the feds are going to come for you, then they are going to come for you. There's nothing you can do.

You guys think you're worried?! This is coming from someone who doesn't even have DACA , for fuck's sake.

Originally Posted by johnfreyan

It's one thing to remain in anonymity - everyone has their story and circumstances, and you don't have to be out in the open for this fight.

But to actually attack and discourage the ones who ARE in the open and fighting in public for the rest of us is low. The fact that it's based in this ridiculous delusion that can only be described as a pathological defense mechanism makes it even worse. If it wasn't for the "far-left", the notion of differentiating childhood arrivals from the rest as "DREAMers" wouldn't even exist. And yet here you are, ready to jump on the people trying to fight for our rights and future.

Some of you literally sound like DV victims, and should seriously consider seeking counseling.

Originally Posted by highhysteric

We are not in a situation to be bargaining for more. My position is we just need to to acknowledge that Trump has kept DACA and has so far excluded us from his immigration orders. We cannot make an enemy out of someone who can easily rescind our protection. We cannot have this all or nothing attitude anymore. We need to survive in this harsh environment and our chances are better if we don't provoke him.

Originally Posted by Smooth

Many simply do not agree with the crap that the popular ones are advancing. For example: "legalization for ALL or nothing." We do not have to follow them like mindless zombies. Like other members have rhetorically have asked, since when do we stand up for the really ULTRA bad ones? You know damn well your asses would not be asking for all or nothing if a murderous immigrant brutally murdered someone you really love.

There have been a few cases where undocumented immigrants have harmed innocent people. Saying this is irrelevant or turning the other cheek and actually making the ridiculous argument that all immigrants are good immigrants is bullshit, selfish, and Anti-American:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/us/kat...ul-death-suit/