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Democrats should stop negotiating with Republicans over Dreamers. (Opinion) - Page 8

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lmao, it’s amazing watching you be dragged left and right.

The only thing you’re good at is personal attacks to thinly veil the fact that you are utterly fucking clueless. Seek help.
seek some mental help if you think blocking and unblocking someone when you finally muster up the courage to reply, is something a normal person does
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Why turn a thread into nothing but personal attacks. Come on people.
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first off, me saying republicans have a set amount of things they want doesn't mean im defending them. literally how do you reach that conclusion?
im pretty sure they're still ok with a border wall/ending visa lottery?
were any bills they voted on addressing visa lottery and border security?

one thing you delusional people need to stop doing is trying to pin people in a corner by calling them republicans and trump supporters. every single time people say this shit to me, they're proven wrong, yet some of you don't get the hint and keep saying this.
you literally do it only to try and discredit what i'm saying, it's disgusting and dishonest.
stop being obtuse and learn to understand differing positions on things without resorting to jumps in logic all because you don't agree with them. maybe then you'll get somewhere in life.
your whole post is a straw man and ad hominem.
The bolded text is the only even somewhat relevant thing you said. And my response would be to direct you to Flake’s bill, which would fund the border wall and end the lottery. It didn’t even get a vote. The Republicans controlled what would be voted on and they didn’t even bring it up for a vote. Why?

And it does mean you’re defending them. You have said nothing negative about them yet you spend your posts trashing the Democrats. I’m a equal opportunity offender who takes a nuanced approach to the problematic elements of both parties. You just seem like a partisan and a Trump partisan at that.


The rest of your post is fluff in which you do exactly what Trump supporters do: attempt to normalize your views. Supporting Trump is not normal. It is a marker that someone is a racist, a fascist, an authoritarian and generally a pretty terrible person. My impression of you is that you are a Trump supporter and hence you probably have these other qualities. If you want to prove me wrong, defend yourself. Tell me why you aren’t a Trump supporter. But do not dare to tell me that my perceptions of Trump voters and Trump’s ideology are wrong. It’s a disgustingly idiotic and morally bankrupt ideology with supporters who have no business belonging to a free, just and democratic populace.
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The bolded text is the only even somewhat relevant thing you said. And my response would be to direct you to Flake’s bill, which would fund the border wall and end the lottery. It didn’t even get a vote. The Republicans controlled what would be voted on and they didn’t even bring it up for a vote. Why?

And it does mean you’re defending them. You have said nothing negative about them yet you spend your posts trashing the Democrats. I’m a equal opportunity offender who takes a nuanced approach to the problematic elements of both parties. You just seem like a partisan and a Trump partisan at that.


The rest of your post is fluff in which you do exactly what Trump supporters do: attempt to normalize your views. Supporting Trump is not normal. It is a marker that someone is a racist, a fascist, an authoritarian and generally a pretty terrible person. My impression of you is that you are a Trump supporter and hence you probably have these other qualities. If you want to prove me wrong, defend yourself. Tell me why you aren’t a Trump supporter. But do not dare to tell me that my perceptions of Trump voters and Trump’s ideology are wrong. It’s a disgustingly idiotic and morally bankrupt ideology with supporters who have no business belonging to a free, just and democratic populace.
just because you're not around when i criticize republicans doesn't mean i don't do it.
i don't care for a lot of the party's platform.
80% of your post sounds like regurgitated schlock designed to fear monger people into accepting anything instead of what you're against.
i don't care for trump, i have said this many times.
your entire worldview on this is "me good, everyone else bad".
this bolded part of your post just shows how partisan you are, "people who voice opinions and support those im against, have no place in a free democratic populace"
you forego the nuances and reality of goverment, just to take a moral high ground, where everything that you disagree with, must be silenced.
i won't even get into your thinking that speaking a differing opinion from your's is equal to normalizing
my "views", which you dont even know.
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DAP has spoken... versailles is the weakest link...
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DAP has spoken... versailles is the weakest link...
"ban everyone i disagree with"
did some of you people even grow up here in the USA?
you'd be right at home in north korea.
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nobody wants to ban you, dawg.

we don't disagree you with you, you're just kind of an a-hole. lol

just look at every thread ur in.

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"ban everyone i disagree with"
did some of you people even grow up here in the USA?
you'd be right at home in north korea.
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just because you're not around when i criticize republicans doesn't mean i don't do it.
i don't care for a lot of the party's platform.
80% of your post sounds like regurgitated schlock designed to fear monger people into accepting anything instead of what you're against.
i don't care for trump, i have said this many times.
your entire worldview on this is "me good, everyone else bad".
this bolded part of your post just shows how partisan you are, "people who voice opinions and support those im against, have no place in a free democratic populace"
you forego the nuances and reality of goverment, just to take a moral high ground, where everything that you disagree with, must be silenced.
i won't even get into your thinking that speaking a differing opinion from your's is equal to normalizing
my "views", which you dont even know.

Actually no. If someone wants to be a Republican or fiscal conservative or whatever a non crazy Republican is, I have no issue with them. But the speech of Trump and Trump supporters outwardly attacks and demonizes groups of people. It is slanderous of swaths of people and openly inspires violence. It would be like me advocating for the mass incarceration or genocide of whites people because of their role in mass shootings.
Their speech when they spout these hateful things should not be protected.

Also if you want to criticize me for not knowing your views, why don’t you practice what you preach. You don’t know what my views are and it’s pretty pathetic that you attempt to mask your rudimentary vocabulary by characterizing people you know nothing as people who believe “me good, everyone else bad”. Of course I try to tell you and others what I believe so they truly have a chance at understanding me. You’re just okay with holding a set of views and then attempting to disassociate yourself from them when it is politically convenient.


Also, you never answer any of my or others’ questions. It seems like you only like have fights about why Trumpism is a normal and ethically acceptable position. This strategy of yours is really something everyone can see through. I think you realize that the facts aren’t on your side.
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"ban everyone i disagree with"
did some of you people even grow up here in the USA?
you'd be right at home in north korea.
This is what you’re down to? lmao, weak indeed.
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Actually no. If someone wants to be a Republican or fiscal conservative or whatever a non crazy Republican is, I have no issue with them. But the speech of Trump and Trump supporters outwardly attacks and demonizes groups of people. It is slanderous of swaths of people and openly inspires violence. It would be like me advocating for the mass incarceration or genocide of whites people because of their role in mass shootings.
Their speech when they spout these hateful things should not be protected.
Also if you want to criticize me for not knowing your views, why don’t you practice what you preach. You don’t know what my views are and it’s pretty pathetic that you attempt to mask your rudimentary vocabulary by characterizing people you know nothing as people who believe “me good, everyone else bad”. Of course I try to tell you and others what I believe so they truly have a chance at understanding me. You’re just okay with holding a set of views and then attempting to disassociate yourself from them when it is politically convenient.
Also, you never answer any of my or others’ questions. It seems like you only like have fights about why Trumpism is a normal and ethically acceptable position. This strategy of yours is really something everyone can see through. I think you realize that the facts aren’t on your side.
your posts up to this one were basically just demonizing and attempting to paint me as an ardent trump supporter, am i wrong in saying this?
and i've told you a few times now, that im not.
and no, the arguments i start aren't "trumpisms", they're me questioning people on why they are so partisan.
what questions have i not answered?
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