Third judge rules against Trump move to end DACA - Page 8

libertarian1776 · 04-25-2018, 04:30 PM

have u considered other countries? can’t be illegal forever ya know.

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Awesome! Now, it is time to help aged out Dreamers.

Swim19 · 04-25-2018, 05:15 PM

This is from an opinion piece, but interesting information about why APA is so important:

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The ruling on APA grounds is particularly noteworthy. This statute’s entire purpose is to assure that a president does not act capriciously to upset people’s expectations of a law without going through the proper process, including publishing a proposed new rule, allowing for a comment period, considering the comments and issuing a new rule. (In some cases, “the agency must engage in trial-like procedures,” to issue a new rule.) This is the “rule of law” in its truest sense — a president is not a monarch who can promulgate and repeal rules on a whim. He must follow certain procedures designed to slow or stop ill-conceived rules and to provide public input. If a president does not comply, a court will enforce that process.

What seems hyper-technical is in fact a critical protection against arbitrary, capricious and secretive decision-making. In other words, the rule of law — exemplified in the APA — is designed to stop chief executives like President Trump from causing havoc in people’s lives. And that protection is there to benefit all Americans — even ones brought here illegally through no fault of their own.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.34b0ec1938a9

This part of the judges ruling also interesting:

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The court went on to chide Sessions: “The Department’s failure to give an adequate explanation of its legal judgment was particularly egregious here in light of the reliance interests involved. … The Rescission Memo made no mention of the fact that DACA had been in place for five years and had engendered the reliance of hundreds of thousands of beneficiaries, many of whom had structured their education, employment, and other life activities on the assumption that they would be able to renew their DACA benefits. The Supreme Court has set aside changes in agency policy for failure to consider reliance interests that pale in comparison to the ones at stake here.”

libertarian1776 · 04-25-2018, 05:17 PM

White House: Judge's ruling on DACA 'good news for smuggling organizations'

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that a judge’s ruling that the federal government must continue to extend protections to some young undocumented immigrants was “good news for smuggling organizations” but “horrible news for our national security.”

In the latest setback to President Donald Trump’s push to unwind the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, a third federal judge on Tuesday rejected his administration’s justification for the efforts.

U.S. District Court Judge John Bates called the Department of Homeland Security’s legal explanation for the decision to shutter the initiative "arbitrary and capricious.” DACA provides protection from deportation and work permits to some people who came to the U.S. as children and entered illegally or overstayed visas.

Speaking at the White House press briefing, Sanders blasted the ruling as “extraordinarily broad and wrong on the law.”

“This ruling is good news for smuggling organizations and criminal networks and horrible news for our national security,” the Trump spokeswoman said.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...50883?cmpid=sf

DreamerSD23 · 04-25-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776

White House: Judge's ruling on DACA 'good news for smuggling organizations'

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that a judge’s ruling that the federal government must continue to extend protections to some young undocumented immigrants was “good news for smuggling organizations” but “horrible news for our national security.”

In the latest setback to President Donald Trump’s push to unwind the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, a third federal judge on Tuesday rejected his administration’s justification for the efforts.

U.S. District Court Judge John Bates called the Department of Homeland Security’s legal explanation for the decision to shutter the initiative "arbitrary and capricious.” DACA provides protection from deportation and work permits to some people who came to the U.S. as children and entered illegally or overstayed visas.

Speaking at the White House press briefing, Sanders blasted the ruling as “extraordinarily broad and wrong on the law.”

“This ruling is good news for smuggling organizations and criminal networks and horrible news for our national security,” the Trump spokeswoman said.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...50883?cmpid=sf

They are really grasping at straws at this point.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 04-25-2018, 06:51 PM

Keeping daca alive is good for smuggling organizations and criminal networks? What the fuck

BeansDreamtoo21 · 04-25-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

Keeping daca alive is good for smuggling organizations and criminal networks? What the fuck

Well it sounds as stupid as "trump supporters are terrorists" lol

Pianoswithoutfaith · 04-25-2018, 07:22 PM

Trump supporters are terrorists though

Here one who drove through a crowd

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...otest-violence

VJB2 · 04-25-2018, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776

White House: Judge's ruling on DACA 'good news for smuggling organizations'

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that a judge’s ruling that the federal government must continue to extend protections to some young undocumented immigrants was “good news for smuggling organizations” but “horrible news for our national security.”

In the latest setback to President Donald Trump’s push to unwind the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, a third federal judge on Tuesday rejected his administration’s justification for the efforts.

U.S. District Court Judge John Bates called the Department of Homeland Security’s legal explanation for the decision to shutter the initiative "arbitrary and capricious.” DACA provides protection from deportation and work permits to some people who came to the U.S. as children and entered illegally or overstayed visas.

Speaking at the White House press briefing, Sanders blasted the ruling as “extraordinarily broad and wrong on the law.”

“This ruling is good news for smuggling organizations and criminal networks and horrible news for our national security,” the Trump spokeswoman said.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...50883?cmpid=sf

She's a complete idiot. Complete. fucking. idiot.

versailles · 04-25-2018, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

Trump supporters are terrorists though

Here one who drove through a crowd

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...otest-violence

i see trump supporters all the time on twitter and they aren't terrorists.
stop generalizing people, you're gross.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 04-25-2018, 07:43 PM

Sure on Twitter they are harmless. You give them a vehicle and they start driving through people.

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