Democrats get hopeful sign from parliamentarian on immigration - Page 3

pretty sure the Dems and Immigrant advocacy groups pushed that 2x in the BBB.

push #1 was the immediate legalization via green cards.
push #2 was the changing of the registry date to 2010.

both shot down by the parliamentarian.

please give me an alternative that is in line with whats happening in Congress right now.

They probably paid off the parliamentarian.....The two happiest people in Congress when she voted no on those were definitely Chucky and Nancy...Its their ultimate playbook..Nancy likes to "declare victory" when she passes stuff in the house and knows its going nowhere in the Senate....Chucky likes to make big time shows (aka that BS Shutdown) to make it seem like they're doing something but in the end his end goal is always to ensure everything fails...

okay that story is cool and all.

but what’s the endgame? if BBB passes miraculously, are u gonna apply for the 10 yr daca or opt out?

im not disagreeing with you, bro. sure we can push for immediate legalization for current dacaers. im all for that, i would love the current 800k dacaers and essential workers only to be legalized but thats not on the table right now.

whats your alternative?

i mean im taking whatever immigration provision Congress passes that would benefit me.

im on daca and have no say on policy changes and dont have the luxury to pick and choose if i want a green card, citizenship, or a 10 yr work permit.

question regarding "being paroled", does that mean it we can adjust if we have a pathway to greencard such as marriage?

if you came in illegally then yes.

Parole allows an individual, who may be inadmissible or otherwise ineligible for admission into the United States, to be paroled into the United States for a temporary period. ... An individual who is paroled into the U.S. has not been formally admitted into the United States for purposes of immigration law.

One thing no one has mentioned about the program is the logistics in implementing it. 7MM is a lot and the immigration system already has a serious backlog in regards to daca, green cards, and asylum.... With the current state of things.. it may take a year to actually get approved through the parole program if its passes.

I don't see anything in the bill that will help alleviate the current backlog or situation.

The problem w/ Parole is that it no longer makes us "special".

It lumps us in with a bunch of other categories of migrants - some considered less "deserving".
It increases the numbers of people in this quasi-legal status from 800k to 7M.
That's a huge jump.
It's a lot harder to convince people to give out greencards to that many people at once.

Also - there's a real possibility that because we're no longer "unique" in our struggle... our plight will get ignored even more. That our thunder will be stolen by other groups who will have more numbers and a very different agenda in mind.

I think it was a mistake of the DACA movement to mix our stuff with the TPS people and other social justice movements.

Nothing wrong with them but that's the main problem with every social justice movement- they're always trying to be inclusive and when you are too inclusive and include too many in the movement:
The movement becomes too large and shaky. The scope and size of the movement becomes too great and too impossible to achieve.
Too many people pulling the movement in too many different directions.

We went from being about legalizing ourselves to this wild and impossible position that "no human is illegal" and that we should legalize everyone.
That's impossible.
It's not gonna happen.
These goddamn UWD liberals keep pushing that shit so they can get their donation dollars. They don't want something small but achievable that includes most of what we want.
Oh no.
They always ask for a pie in the moon and it always fails.

That's an excellent point.