Gutierrez On Immigration Reform: "This Is The Year We're Gonna Get It Done"

He's still too hopeful if you ask me.

http://progressillinois.com/2010/1/1...etting-it-done

for me, i think the immigration is not really hard for congress. not like health care. since 2007, congress already tried to pass the immigration reform, but it failed. plus, some of the republican will support the immigration issue,

Imo,immigration is many times more complicated than healthcare.This election also would have made even the moderate Republicans much more cautious in dealing with controversial issues this year in the surrounding areas of yesterday's election.

There are at least 3 Republican moderate Senators in the Northeast,Judd Gregg,Olympia Snowe & Susan Collins & since the election Snowe has changed her mood concerning working on Healthcare & I would think probably on any controversial legislation as well for the year,immigration included.

Going forward,I think what we should look for is this

1.How does this change the gameplan that Schumer has developed[if he has or had one]?

2.If a primary immigration change is scheduled for 2011 how does the Census impact any future efforts ?

3.Where does Dream act & any resources that go toward its revival go from here?

What I can't understand is why the senate can't just bring up the 2006 immigration bill that passed in the senate? What is wrong with that bill?

I disagree , I don't really think CIR is as polarized as health care reform with its ideas of government subsidized costs, taxes only affecting specific groups, and special control of practices of private corporations. There are people who might be in favor of it on humanitarian level but will never support the reform if these clauses stay there because a start of such direct government influence over private businesses will sooner or later create a slippery slope.

I don't think CIR will face these issues as long as the language is fairly clear that we will be required to pay fines, pass a background check, be employed and do other things that will prove to a regular voting USc that the reform is both cost-effective and will have some beneficial impact.

The health care bill with the government run public option is equal to a CIR bill that just spells "amnesty" with no fines or anything. Something like that shouldn't even be introduced because, while we would obviously like it to pass, the opposition will be just too great.

people said it is amnesty, plus political didn't want to pass becuase bush administration.

The situation is more complicated than that. Why would republicans want to legalize 15 million people when they know that these people will never vote for them? Once these people become citizens, if they vote, a big majority of them will vote for democrats.

That's an even better reason to participate in the effort, don't you think? The Republicans have lost (and continue to lose) support from people that are pro-CIR (even some republicans). And not to mention the Hispanics that seem to get the finger pointed at them and their families every chance possible. It'll hurt more if they continue to yell "arrest and deport!!!" than to actually help come up with a solution. Just my thoughts though.

I'm with you on that. It seems that only a few republicans see it like that though.

If the majority of democrats vote in favor of an immigration reform and only a few republicans vote for it, the short-run outcome is perhaps what you describe. A big loss in the numbers of seats for the republicans. However, in the long-run, voters will start voting according to issues and the prosperity of the country.

On another note Rep. Gutierrez has to be optimistic because if he isn't who will? You have to think about that. If no one is there to voice out what they believe then who will? Don't you think deep down he knows it will be difficult to get an immigration reform passed? He knows this but is pushing it forward in hopes of gaining support from others, who want it and support it, but deep down know it will not pass. Who knows, if the optimism continues, more momentum can be built and an immigration bill could make its way to the senate floor.

HR 4321: CIR ASAP

bill# presented by gutierrez...that should b the above facebook address. i hope it gets passed. hate families getting split.