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DAP Forums > DREAM Act > The News Room

Who of you would feel discriminated.

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#1
01-15-2011, 10:18 PM
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DREAM Act Requirements allow room for discrimination

The DREAM Act to ease the path to U.S. citizenship has had several versions voted on by Congress, none successful so far. The motive to do so seems worthy but includes doubtful tests for eligibility. Two requirements proposed in the act seem to have merit on first glance, but have ominous overtones: the applicant has graduated from an American high school or obtained a GED certificate, or served time in the U.S. military.

Many present U.S. citizens do not or cannot graduate from high school (let alone college) or cannot successfully pass the GED. Thus, citizenship here will be denied to applicants, based on their scholastic failure. This means that a citizenship determination will be made by someone in the educational system, an apparent discrimination based on IQ determinations and other vague criteria.

Service in the military requires, among other items, successfully passing the medical and physical exams. Failure to meet these tests would result in denial of the chance for citizenship. (One effort to avoid this could be merely for the applicants to register for Selective Service whether or not they expected acceptance.) In both these requirements there is an explicit discrimination against the lower-functioning student and the physically less endowed. The critical decisions would be made by educational or military recruiting personnel.

This should not be so.

Glen Duncan / Napa

http://napavalleyregister.com/news/o...cc4c03286.html
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#2
01-15-2011, 11:05 PM
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Dumb article.
Graduating from High School is easy.
A 4-year bachelors degree was straight forward for me.

I am in favor of increasing the requirements if it means that it passes.
How about making a Master's Degree a requirement?
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#3
01-16-2011, 03:58 AM
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yaystarcraft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivan81 View Post
DREAM Act Requirements allow room for discrimination

The DREAM Act to ease the path to U.S. citizenship has had several versions voted on by Congress, none successful so far. The motive to do so seems worthy but includes doubtful tests for eligibility. Two requirements proposed in the act seem to have merit on first glance, but have ominous overtones: the applicant has graduated from an American high school or obtained a GED certificate, or served time in the U.S. military.

Many present U.S. citizens do not or cannot graduate from high school (let alone college) or cannot successfully pass the GED. Thus, citizenship here will be denied to applicants, based on their scholastic failure. This means that a citizenship determination will be made by someone in the educational system, an apparent discrimination based on IQ determinations and other vague criteria.

Service in the military requires, among other items, successfully passing the medical and physical exams. Failure to meet these tests would result in denial of the chance for citizenship. (One effort to avoid this could be merely for the applicants to register for Selective Service whether or not they expected acceptance.) In both these requirements there is an explicit discrimination against the lower-functioning student and the physically less endowed. The critical decisions would be made by educational or military recruiting personnel.

This should not be so.

Glen Duncan / Napa

http://napavalleyregister.com/news/o...cc4c03286.html
Lol this is funny... So let's just deny the smarter/stronger people the chance at making this country better.

Besides, how hard is it to pass high school? I understand the military is a little tough but it says something about the country if a lot of its kids can barely pass high school.

Whoever wrote this is pathetic.
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01-16-2011, 04:48 AM
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This should not be so.

you sure told'em! People actually get paid to write this crap?
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01-16-2011, 02:57 PM
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Wow, people who do not finish High School deserve whatever discrimination they get.

High School is a piece of cake. Dumb article is dumb.
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01-17-2011, 03:17 PM
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Huh, that's a good point. I've never thought of that. There is a difference between being lazy and being developmentally retarded -- the DREAM Act wouldn't cover people who -can't- get a high school degree because they have disabilities. These people would also be extra vulnerable if they are to be deported to a country where they have no ability to support themselves.
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01-17-2011, 04:55 PM
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It's funny how people point out that disabled Dreamers and older Dreamers should be included when Dream Act itself barely has any chance of passing.
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