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04-07-2012, 02:16 PM
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Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., stirred up the immigration debate last week when he announced a proposal to offer a “conservative-Republican alternative” to the DREAM Act, but it might not be enough for “attrition through enforcement” supporters, including Mitt Romney and his immigration advisor Kris Kobach.

According to Salon, in the race to get “Romney’s ear on immigration,” Rubio “starts out far behind” Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and “the most effective immigration restrictionist in American politics today.” Kobach authored Arizona and Alabama’s immigration enforcement laws.

“Kobach endorsed Romney in January and signed on to the campaign as an advisor. He is the foremost exponent of Romney’s avowed policy of ‘self-deportation’ for illegal immigrants,” Salon adds.

Romney first mentioned “self-deportation,” another name for “attrition through enforcement,” in Florida just days before the state’s GOP presidential primary.

Numbers USA, an organization that promotes and organizes around “attrition through enforcement,” writes that “the goal is to make it extremely difficult for unauthorized persons to live and work in the United States. There is no need for taxpayers to watch the government spend billions of their dollars to round up and deport illegal aliens; they will buy their own bus or plane tickets back home if they can no longer earn a living here.”

Kobach said in February during the Conservative Political Action Conference that attrition is a rational enforcement of the law, neither mass deportation nor amnesty. He said Arizona was the first state that required E-Verify, and that the move has led tens of thousands of undocumented workers to self-deport. He added that in Alabama “in the first month after the [immigration] law was enforced, unemployment dropped 0.5 percent in one month.”

Salon writes that “in an email, Kobach said he had not seen any details of Rubio’s Republican DREAM Act, ‘so I really can’t comment.’ Kobach also said he has not had any discussions about the proposal with the Romney campaign.”

What Kobach has done is file an amicus brief (.pdf) on behalf of the Secure States Initiative with the Supreme Court, explaining how “the three challenged provisions of [Arizona's] SB1070 are in full harmony with the federal immigration laws enacted by Congress.”

S.B. 1070, which will go before the Supreme Court on April 25 has served as a model for other states and brought to the forefront questions about how states can enforce existing federal immigration laws. Soon after its passage in April 2010 the Obama administration challenged the constitutionality of the measure. In July 2010 the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th District upheld an injunction that blocked several provisions contained in the law, which prompted Arizona authorities to petition the Supreme Court.

According to the Immigration Reform Law Institute, where Kobach serves as an expert on constitutional law, the Secure States Initiative brief states “that the fundamental flaw in the Ninth Circuit decision is that it did not identify a single federal statute that unmistakably expresses federal intent to preempt state laws like SB 1070.”

Salon adds that “for immigration restrictionists, Rubio’s proposal amounts to another variation on ‘amnesty,’ says Ira Mehlman, spokesman for Federation for American Immigration Reform.

“Republicans are looking back nostalgically to the time when they got 40 percent of the Latino vote. It’s not likely to happen,” Mehlman told Salon.



What do you guys think about the article? Do you think Kobach's views for this present year are going to triumph over Rubio's "compromise"? There are rumors Mitt Romney is still intoxicated with the fool.
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It is terrible that Kobach has endorsed Romney because he is the most likely to win the nomination. I think that most of these laws written by Kobach may be effective in removing illegal immigrants, but still very inhumane. I believe that there should be a solution presented on how to keep illegal immigrants from working, but not something so harsh as to racially profile people and prevent undocumented children from going to school. Education is the most important thing we should provide everyone. That is a secular principle of mine, not just one I hold for the U.S. I haven't read any of the new things Kobach has proposed nor do I understand most of what I have read from the rhetoric they presented in what I did read, but it is made pretty clear when enforced. I would like to hear your opinion on my thoughts. I know many of yall have a different more lenient perspective.
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It is terrible that Kobach has endorsed Romney because he is the most likely to win the nomination. I think that most of these laws written by Kobach may be effective in removing illegal immigrants, but still very inhumane. I believe that there should be a solution presented on how to keep illegal immigrants from working, but not something so harsh as to racially profile people and prevent undocumented children from going to school. Education is the most important thing we should provide everyone. That is a secular principle of mine, not just one I hold for the U.S. I haven't read any of the new things Kobach has proposed nor do I understand most of what I have read from the rhetoric they presented in what I did read, but it is made pretty clear when enforced. I would like to hear your opinion on my thoughts. I know many of yall have a different more lenient perspective.
I pretty much agree but unless the economy starts booming again I doubt his discourse will lose it's power among certain sections of the population. The genius of Kobach is that his simplistic view of undocumented immigrants as leech sucking people who steal jobs from Americans is so amicable in the minds of those who are bitter, dejected, and feeling resented by their lack of social mobility. Add in the racists, those with an inferiority complex, and those who are just ignorant and he has managed to shift the whole immigration discourse rightwards. look at what has happened to the dream act? Who would have five years ago predicted that most dreamers would have even embraced a visa only dream act? Or that the Dream act would honestly only get fifty percent support from the populace in certain polls? The man has been effective and his success points to me one reason why the left failed after 2008. The left unlike the right does not know how to promote it's policies in an aggressive and uncompromising light to the public.
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