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Obama’s “evolution” on DREAM

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05-20-2012, 09:45 AM
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If only Obama would also evolve on the question of what to do with the DREAMers. If only, in the absence of federal legislation, he would decide to grant them broad administrative relief-as a group-that would allow them to study and work legally in the United States without fear of deportation.
Pressure to do so continues to increase-not only from pro-immigrant groups and from the DREAMers themselves, who, seeing that the promise of comprehensive immigration reform has disintegrated, have begun to ask for administrative relief in its place, but now from at least one Republican as well. Florida Senator Marco Rubio, widely considered a potential running mate to presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, is preparing to introduce his own version of the DREAM Act-which the senator calls a “humanitarian mission.”


I hope that the president understands the importance of finding an administrative solution to the immigration limbo these young people face while Congress discusses the legislation that will determine their future.
22 Democratic senators have already sent a letter to the president asking him to consider offering “deferred action” or a suspension of deportation to all undocumented young people who would be eligible for the DREAM Act if it passes.
In an interview with Jorge Ramos on Al Punto, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that “There’s more the President is going to do administratively. And that should happen fairly quickly.”
With any luck, Obama will also evolve to embrace the dream of millions of undocumented young people, and grant them administrative relief.
http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/...on-on-dream-3/

I believe this is our best option left. If Mitt Romney gives a lukewarm backing to the so called Rubio Dream Act, i doubt the GOP leadership in the house would even bring it up for a vote. Also, if the leadership realizes that they don't have enough republican votes in their conference to pass it, they won't bring it up.
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I agree, I think that Obama will definately do something for us during his 2nd term. He will use his power as president to provide some sort of relief.

It is too early to tell from the polls who will win. I think Obama will win by a lot though. Even republicans do not like Romney. What they tell me is that. We have no other choice than to vote for him. Moderates will side with Obama and that will make all the difference.

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I agree, I think that Obama will definately do something for us during his 2nd term. He will use his power as president to provide some sort of relief.

It is too early to tell from the polls who will win. I think Obama will win by a lot though. Even republicans do not like Romney. What they tell me is that. We have no other choice than to vote for him. Moderates will side with Obama and that will make all the difference.

I'm not feeling too sure myself. If the eurozone collapses(high chance of that now by the day) or Israel attacks Iran and the economy spirals out of control, he can kiss the white house goodbye.

Additionally, I'm not too high on Mr. Obama anymore or the democrats, Obama has through his treatment of the rubio bill already shown he's in this purely for the political game and kicks he can get out of it, not to help us at all. He only ever remembers us when election season is coming.

In his second term he could show even more excuses and delays. Plus with SB 1070 having a high chance of being upheld by the court, who's not to say that the standards for immigration reform don't get ever tighter and thus less meaningful? In a few years nobody might be talking about amnesty, just not getting arrested on the road by a cop who has powers to do it through an SB 1070 clone law. I'm getting inclined to say that America is just going to get even more polarized and declinist. Saddening it is too, I hope I'm wrong though, but I just don't trust any political party or power bloc anymore., and certainly not the president or Romney.
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Must you post this at least once a day? There's no real proof that it will.
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IF Obama was to actually grant us administrative relief it would absolutely be during his second term. He knows how to be a real politician; he knows how to steal, cheat, and lie better than almost anyone I've ever seen. In addition, the presidency of the United States has gradually become more analogous to a reality show. Lets expect the worst, and hope for the best.
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I'm not feeling too sure myself. If the eurozone collapses(high chance of that now by the day) or Israel attacks Iran and the economy spirals out of control, he can kiss the white house goodbye.

Additionally, I'm not too high on Mr. Obama anymore or the democrats, Obama has through his treatment of the rubio bill already shown he's in this purely for the political game and kicks he can get out of it, not to help us at all. He only ever remembers us when election season is coming.

In his second term he could show even more excuses and delays. Plus with SB 1070 having a high chance of being upheld by the court, who's not to say that the standards for immigration reform don't get ever tighter and thus less meaningful? In a few years nobody might be talking about amnesty, just not getting arrested on the road by a cop who has powers to do it through an SB 1070 clone law. I'm getting inclined to say that America is just going to get even more polarized and declinist. Saddening it is too, I hope I'm wrong though, but I just don't trust any political party or power bloc anymore., and certainly not the president or Romney.

Well, as immigrant population grows, specially Hispanic Americans, we will see if something does not happen.

It is innevitable, America cannot become more polarized... There is no fuel to sustain it. The old conservatives are beginning to die and a more liberal youth is replacing them.

I am not saying anything will happen over night but change is imminent.


This is just my point of view which is base on what I see happening in terms of demographics.

No matter who is in power... DEMS or REPUBS the political game in terms of immigration will stop given the immigrant voting block grows and becomes more educated.
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Must you post this at least once a day? There's no real proof that it will.
According to the recent articles. It seems like it is heading towards passage.
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I agree, I think that Obama will definately do something for us during his 2nd term. He will use his power as president to provide some sort of relief.

It is too early to tell from the polls who will win. I think Obama will win by a lot though. Even republicans do not like Romney. What they tell me is that. We have no other choice than to vote for him. Moderates will side with Obama and that will make all the difference.

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Well, as immigrant population grows, specially Hispanic Americans, we will see if something does not happen.

It is innevitable, America cannot become more polarized... There is no fuel to sustain it. The old conservatives are beginning to die and a more liberal youth is replacing them.

I am not saying anything will happen over night but change is imminent.


This is just my point of view which is base on what I see happening in terms of demographics.

No matter who is in power... DEMS or REPUBS the political game in terms of immigration will stop given the immigrant voting block grows and becomes more educated.

Change is imminent, but it is at least a generation and a decade away. For now we see the last grand battle of the baby boomers, a battle that has been raging since the 1960s and that has taken this country from Vietnam to Iraq and from grand economic boom to the worst economic crisis since the depression. What I am talking about though is not the long-term, but the short term(next 2-5 years) which is what I think most dreamers care about. I doubt many of us will intend to stay after our educations if by the end of 2013 it looks as if there is nothing in store in terms of reform.

And seeing that the republicans have a great chance at taking back the senate, will most likely retain the house, and the tea party bloc still seems for the moment restrictionist in terms of immigration, the chances of no immigration reform at all remains a distinct possibility.
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According to the recent articles. It seems like it is heading towards passage.
Of course when you look at the Author of those articles, they had someone listed as DA User
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I don't see ANY articles that says that Dream Act won't pass. We already had many reasons to why it will pass. Many are more optimistic now then ever.
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