Bill O’Reilly Tells Marco Rubio Immigration Reform Sounds ‘Pretty Fair’

Ianus · 01-17-2013, 05:52 PM

Rubio's plan seems to be you would have to be here for a certain number of year's to qualify.While you have a legal status via a visa the enforcement for worksite and border security would implemented and once that is finished the applicant would then be eligible only for sponsorship through current law.

The President's plan seems to be pretty much the same with regards to meeting the requisite number of years for qualification but allows the applicant to apply for Permanent Residence through a new qualifying category after 8 years of legal status.

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Add Bill O’Reilly to the list of conservative media personalities experimenting with immigration reform. The Fox News host told Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) on Wednesday that the senator’s plan, which closely resembles President Obama’s immigration framework, sounded reasonable.

Rubio’s proposed solution, although still vague, would give undocumented immigrants legal status and an eventual path to citizenship provided they meet a series of criteria that are mostly consensus benchmarks among immigration reform advocates.

“You have to come forward, you have to be finger printed, background checked for national security and crimes, you have to pay back taxes, you have to pay fines, you have to have been here for a significant period of time, know English and be assimilated,” Rubio told O’Reilly, who has been highly critical of illegal immigrants in the past on his show. “And if you do all of those things, what you get is a work permit, basically. A legal status, not a green card, to allow you to be in this country legally and to work.”

This sounded good to O’Reilly, who even suggested Obama might try to sabotage Rubio’s sensible offering in order to keep Latino voters from giving the GOP a second look in the next election. And in a key shift, O’Reilly suggested that the record number of deportations in recent years and a reduced inflow of immigrants has swayed his opinion on the issue.

“Look, you may know this, and I’ve been very tough on this issue and border security but it is getting better,” O’Reilly said. “The stats show it is getting better. I think they have a handle on it now, and I like your program. I think it’s fair. So, I want you and President Obama to get on the phone and get this thing so it doesn’t turn into a bloody mess.”

For a host who once got into an on-air screaming match with Geraldo Rivera over whether to blame drunk driving deaths on illegal immigration, it was a pretty significant shift in tone. And it comes after another prominent FOX host, Sean Hannity, endorsed a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants as well.

O’Reilly and other conservatives appear to be performing a careful dance around Rubio on immigration, offering him cover with the tea party wing by framing him as a right-wing antidote to radical immigration reformers in the Democratic party. A piece in the Wall Street Journal this weekend portrayed Rubio’s ideas as a bold break from the left, writing that his plan “won’t please either the blanket amnesty crowd or the Minutemen.” But as reform opponent Mark Krikorian at the Center for Immigration Studies put it to the Miami Herald, his suggestions are essentially “the Rubio-Obama immigration plan” so far. White House press secretary Jay Carney said Wednesday in his daily briefing that Rubio’s recent statements “bode well” for reform and that he hopes other Republicans follow suit.

lostpath · 01-17-2013, 05:58 PM

What is considered as a significant amount of time 5, 10 or more years.

ggalicia · 01-17-2013, 06:32 PM

What I feel is stupid is that all they want to give us is a work permit, were not asking for citizenship just let us get permanent residency and if people choose then apply for citizenship

Ianus · 01-17-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lostpath

What is considered as a significant amount of time 5, 10 or more years.

I'd say over 5 years.

jadee87 · 01-17-2013, 07:45 PM

Why don't they push for the Dream Act? According to various polls, people are more open to it then they were before. I really need a green card, not 8 years of legal status. You can't enlist in the military without a green card. You can't get financial aid without a green card and why shouldn't I be able to receive financial aid if I pay taxes like every other student who receives financial aid. Am I allowed to travel and come back if I have legal status? I know there isn't a lot of info about this yet but still.. legal status is great for people like my parents who really just need to work but for my sister and I to be able to enlist or continue our education, its not. Obviously, I'll be thankful with any change but I can't help but want more.

ItsKdC · 01-17-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jadee87

Why don't they push for the Dream Act? According to various polls, people are more open to it then they were before. I really need a green card, not 8 years of legal status. You can't enlist in the military without a green card. You can't get financial aid without a green card and why shouldn't I be able to receive financial aid if I pay taxes like every other student who receives financial aid. Am I allowed to travel and come back if I have legal status? I know there isn't a lot of info about this yet but still.. legal status is great for people like my parents who really just need to work but for my sister and I to be able to enlist or continue our education, its not. Obviously, I'll be thankful with any change but I can't help but want more.

As much as i would love the DA, this is more than just me, u and other DREAMers. This is about the over 11 million people living in the same hell as us, so CIR is the only solution. The DA is a solution for us, but i honestly dont wanna see a bill that leaves family members and approximately 1o million others behind. DACA is enough for me until something happens and i really only wanna hear about the DA if it is included in a CIR bill.

jadee87 · 01-17-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsKdC

As much as i would love the DA, this is more than just me, u and other DREAMers. This is about the over 11 million people living in the same hell as us, so CIR is the only solution. The DA is a solution for us, but i honestly dont wanna see a bill that leaves family members and approximately 1o million others behind. DACA is enough for me until something happens and i really only wanna hear about the DA if it is included in a CIR bill.

I agree with what you're saying. CIR is the solution but right now all they keep talking about is providing legal status. That's why I bring up the Dream Act. If all they are willing to do is provide everyone legal status then maybe they should push for the Dream Act as well. I don't want to see a bill that leaves people behind either, but we need to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Djdieg007 · 01-17-2013, 09:08 PM

That no status period is bullshit, OBAMA won't allow it. I understand that they make you have to apply and get in the back of the line which will take about 10 years until your priority date is up... BUT its retarded and bullshit that this puto wants us to chill out with a work permit for a "decent period" period of time and then after THAT apply for a green card that takes 10 years to get so at least with this plan we would be looking at 20 years until citizenship..... FUCK Marco Rubio.

msaccountant · 01-17-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jadee87

I agree with what you're saying. CIR is the solution but right now all they keep talking about is providing legal status. That's why I bring up the Dream Act. If all they are willing to do is provide everyone legal status then maybe they should push for the Dream Act as well. I don't want to see a bill that leaves people behind either, but we need to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

You do know that the current version of the DREAM Act would not mean receiving a green card the moment you apply? The first couple of years you'd be looking at something similar to DACA. Besides CIR helps the rest we need to think of everyone not just ourselves. And don't worry Rubio has no plan he's all talk.

jadee87 · 01-17-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by msaccountant

You do know that the current version of the DREAM Act would not mean receiving a green card the moment you apply? The first couple of years you'd be looking at something similar to DACA. Besides CIR helps the rest we need to think of everyone not just ourselves. And don't worry Rubio has no plan he's all talk.

I really do want a CIR. There are a lot of people I know and love that need this and I understand that there are millions of people that need this too. I don't care for Rubio but it does bother me that he is becoming popular with his party. Republicans think we actually care about what he says. I actually did not know that about the current version of the DREAM Act. What else changed?

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