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WikiBombing, week 1: Illegal Immigration in the United States

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03-15-2008, 07:53 AM
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Okay, so for those of you who were in the chat held on...Sunday, was it?...will probably recall that we discussed editing Wikipedia articles that concern immigration, making them more factual and beneficial to our side. The main reasons we want to do this is:

1. Wikipedia is pretty much the one stop information source for the internet. It tends to come up #1 on Google for just about everything, and despite being often inaccurate, is considered the Word of God by everybody ever trying to prove a point on the internets. Britannica? WHO CARES. It's all about Wiki. You control Wiki, and you control the information going to thousands and thousands of readers, most of whom view Wiki as accurate and balanced.
2. The alicrappers are holding wiki-editing conventions. This means war. THIS...IS...DAP. And such.

Of course, before we go into this, you have to remember: the wiki articles we are going to be edited are full of inaccuracies and anti-migrant biases. We need to correct that, but also avoid injecting biases of our own. Sure, battling devolved clubfooted alipackers might seem like a heavy task to take on since most of us don't live in our mothers' basements and masturbate while lurking around message boards waiting for someone to say something positive about Mexicans so that we can rip them a new one, but it really isn't. Why? Because the facts are on our side. But still, keeping the basement dwellers in mind, remember that ANYBODY can edit a wiki article, which means that if you make a change, save it to your computer so that if somebody undoes it you don't lose all that hard work.

So, for week 1 (did I mention we;re going to try and focus on one article each week? Cuz we are), we're going to tackle Illegal Immigration in the United States.

Some Parts to Pay Attention To
I think the entire article sounds like it was written by a lobotomized wingbat, but still, here are several parts of it which I think need special attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...States#Dangers

This part mentions possible death while entering illegally. It might do well to go into more detail about this, such as

1. number of deaths along the border
2. criticism of government policies which have caused people to cross in more dangerous areas

Also, the article mentions that migrants may suffer death at the hands of corrupt smugglers, yet fails mentioning the abuse and death which they may suffer at the hands of immigration enforcement agents, as well as the abuse and death that HAS been done by agents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...an_Authorities

This section claims that Mexico is encouraging illegal immigration, whereas the documents listed were made in response to the rise of deaths along the border.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...tates#Economic

This one's just too deep in shit for me to even go into it here. But, you know, Borjas' studies have been contradicted many times, and the loss for the poorest has been shown in several to be .4%, not 4%. This paints immigrants as impacting the economy completely negatively, while failing to point out the many studies showing that they benefit the economy more than they hurt it, such as the comptroller report in Texas which showed that Texan undocumented immigrants benefit the economy by $17 billion, even when you account for the costs. In the wiki article, there is more support cited for the "immigrants cost us" argument than for the "benefit" argument, even though the benefit argument has more factual support.

And increased the black prison population? fucking seriously?

Law enforcement--as we all know, repeated studies have shown that immigrants commit crime at a MUCH lower rate than the native born.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...Racial_tension

I love how the racial tension section is all about what a (single) black person said. Yep, that's right. THAT'S where all the racial tension is coming from. White people ain't got nothing to do with it. Lou Dobbs? William Gheen? John Tanton? Who are they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal..._States#Health

Again citing the myth that 60 hospitals in Cali had to close because of undocumented immigrants. I've seen many articles quoting the hospital people saying that they had to close because they were underused. Look it up.

This motherfucker cites Madeleine Cosman, of "all Mexicans are pedophiles" fame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...#Environmental

Remember that fake CNN website that "reported" that the wildfires in California were caused by undocumented immigrants, and the alicrappers got all up in a tizzy about? Well, this guy is all over this "citing" that.

Perhaps mention in this area he effects of the fence on the environment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...ry_involvement

Makes it sound like Esquiel Hernandez intentionally shot at the marines, whereas they were camouflaged and concealed in bushes, and he was guarding goats from, you know, wild animals that shake around in bushes. And got murdered for it. Set it straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...gration_policy

This section needs to be updated, since many laws have passed since farmer's branch. Also, the explanation of sanctuary policies is incomplete. There should be a mention of the reasons for these, such as cooperation with the police by the immigrant community, access to health care, etc.

Resources

"Hi, pingpong. How am I supposed to prove all of this?"

Here are some great sites:

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/
http://www.splcenter.org/index.jsp
http://www.ailf.org/
http://www.nilc.org/

Anyway, last reminders:

1. CITE. Everything you type has to be backed up by evidence.
2. SAVE. If you spend time correcting a part of the wiki article, save it for god's sake, because if a basement dweller changes it back and you didn't save, then you've just wasted your Saturday afternoon.
3. PLEASE GOD SHOOT THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS ARTICLE. "high speed chases may cause death"? "most immigration is by land or sea"? ORLY???
4. Don't kill yourself. I'll edit some, you edit some, we all edit together, and the article won't seem so long anymore.
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03-15-2008, 07:49 PM
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Okay, I don't understand the wiki editing process at all. ALL THESE symbols. What the hell. I've written two small sections, but looking at theediting guidelines gives me a headache. Maybe it's just because I haven't slept in awhile, but is there anybody who's more profcient in editing wikis who would like to format what I wrote?
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This is a monstrous task but I will try to contribute when I have time.

By the way, Alipac is mentioning this thread in the 'general' area. One of them called you an "oily little twerp" and that you are "full of hate and rage towards Patriots"...

They're a funny bunch, those ridiculous nativists.
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Off topic: Had to quote and respond to this guy from the "other" site.

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Look, I hate illegal immigration as much as you do but I think those kids aren't here for the iPods or anything like that. They can get that stuff whether or not they're illegal. iPods are sold all over the world so they don't need to come here illegally if they really want one.
Exactly.

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Lazy? I don't think so... They are all talking about going to school on subsidized tuition and getting free education. Doesn't sound like lazy kids to me... Just a bunch of lawbreakers who try to seize opportunities.
Not sure what you mean about a "free education" as most of us would not qualify for federal financial aid or even loans etc. As for the latter, the only thing worse than being illegal is being illegal with no motivation. Maybe we should stick a thumb up our ass and another up our nose while life passes us by right? Jesus...

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And I have been reading some of the posts there. SOME of them are willing to fight for our country. That doesn't excuse them from breaking the law though.
We did not voluntarily purchase a one way ticket to here. Hmmm what should we do, stupidly go to where we were born with no plan for action or make the best of available opportunities here? I am not sure about most of you but I have found that planning ahead leads to rewarding outcomes. Try it sometime...

Anyway if your reading this, I just wanted to say thanks for not being so godamn biased.
Whew back on topic:

I'll take a look at editing ping, but I have a feeling web page designers would be a big help right about now...
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03-17-2008, 07:23 PM
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haha, right? I seem to have riled that Ex_OC person up. Poor thing. Sorry, patriots. I did place my bet on the Giants, but I wouldn't call it 'hate and rage'.

Anyway, I will love you two forever if you do. YGAA is also working on it. I've taken another look, after actually getting a good night's sleep, and all of the symbols look less insane to me now, so if anyone needs help formatting once they've written their part, tell me.

Right now I'm just trying to get what I wrote to not be so wordy, which, as anyone who has read my posts in this forum will notice, is my greatest vice.
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Hey guys,

I was reading on "Eliminate Your Competition" and it says that being here undocumented is not a 'criminal' offense but rather a civil offense. And the first thing you read on that wiki site contains this:

"Illegal immigration to the United States is a criminal[1] and civil[2] offense sanctionable by fines[3], imprisonment[4], and deportation[5]."

Seems like the whole document starts off on the wrong foot, I would change it, but I don't know exactly how ^_^. Any takers?

Well I just merely wanted to point that out.

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I also fixed the dream act page because FAIR was there again.
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...^ fixed
Yeah I noticed ^_^ nice work! I love how it reads now I actually read the changes even before you posted here :P
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal...States#Dangers

This part mentions possible death while entering illegally. It might do well to go into more detail about this, such as

1. number of deaths along the border
2. criticism of government policies which have caused people to cross in more dangerous areas

Also, the article mentions that migrants may suffer death at the hands of corrupt smugglers, yet fails mentioning the abuse and death which they may suffer at the hands of immigration enforcement agents, as well as the abuse and death that HAS been done by agents.
Hi,

I changed the "Dangers" section, I noticed there is a "Deaths" section just 2 or 3 subtitles that I could add more to, or change some of what I added to dangers on to the "Deaths" like the number of deaths and such.

Well in any case, how does the section on "Dangers" look now? Is that good? Took me a while since I didn't know exactly how to change the stuff or to correctly cite it, but I figured it out ^_^.

Oh and that section with the "high speed pursuits" bothers me a lot...
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