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GOP and dems negotiations on funding gov, confident on daca before 2018

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12-12-2017, 09:48 PM
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House Republican leaders are moving ahead with a plan to pass a government-funding bill that pairs a full year of defense spending with a short-term extension of other programs.

GOP leadership presented the idea during their conference meeting on Tuesday as members debated how to avoid a government shutdown on Dec. 22, when funding is set to expire.

Conservatives earlier this month demanded that leadership commit to funding the military for a full year in the next government funding package, and Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.), the head of the Republican Study Committee, said House GOP leadership has agreed to pursue that approach.

"I'll take him at his word," Walker said last week of Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). "This was part of our meeting, that he's working on our behalf."


Ryan on Tuesday kept his cards close to the vest, but said that the House would put together a funding bill that "reflects our priorities."

"Our plan is to send an appropriation bill over to the Senate so they can start dealing with appropriations. So that's what we're going to do then. We're going to put together a bill that reflects our priorities and send that over to the Senate after tax reform," he told reporters.

Pairing a full year of defense spending with a continuing resolution is a non-starter with Senate Democrats. On Tuesday, 44 of them signed onto a letter vowing to oppose a resolution that includes a full year of military spending.

"There is a better path - let the bipartisan negotiation continue in good faith so that Democrats and Republicans can produce a budget agreement that fully funds our homeland security, health care, and Veterans' needs. If presented with partisan legislation that leaves these key priorities behind, we will oppose it," the Democratic senators wrote.


Leadership is moving ahead with the plan in an effort to appease defense hawks and conservatives, even though pairing defense spending with a short-term extension of other programs is likely dead-on-arrival in the Senate.

But showing the conference that the defense-first approach will fail in the upper chamber would give House leadership some cover to revert to a plan B: a continuing resolution (CR) that keeps the government's lights on until the New Year.

That would buy lawmakers some more time to write a massive, trillion-dollar omnibus package.

"We have to go through a series of false starts before we get down to reality. I suspect we will indulge those who feel this is tactically smart to do defense plus CR," Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), an Appropriations cardinal, told reporters Tuesday. "I think everybody with a pair of eyes and ears knows that the defense piece will be stripped out and sent back."

The game of legislative chicken comes as Congress is facing a tight deadline to pass another bill to fund the government after kicking the can for two weeks in effort to buy more negotiating time.

Republican leaders now face a Dec. 22 cutoff point and are adamant that they will not allow the government to close.

"There isn't any chance that we're going to shut the government down. We're in discussions. ... The American people need not worry that there is going to be any kind of government shutdown," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told reporters during a weekly press conference on Tuesday.

He added, "I don't think the Democrats want to do it, and we don't either."

But both sides are trading fire as they try to lock down an agreement on funding, as well as a separate deal on raising the budget caps to avoid mandatory cuts that are scheduled to take effect in January.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) laid out the Democratic demands on Tuesday, including an equal increase in defense and nondefense spending, funding to combat the opioid epidemic, and a fix for a key Obama-era immigration program.

"These negotiations are advancing well but many issues remain to be resolved," he said.

Schumer added that Democrats are negotiating a legislative replacement for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program in exchange for a "significant investment in border security."

The fight over DACA has emerged as one of the key sticking points in the talks.

GOP leadership and the White House have been adamant an immigration deal won't be air dropped into the year-end bill.

They're also betting that Democrats will not force a government shutdown over the DACA fight.


Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) said that Congress needs to pass a legislative fix but declined to say if he would oppose a short-term continuing resolution with a promise to deal with DACA in January.

"Whether we get it done this week or next week, or this month or next month, remains to be seen," he said. "[But] I don't make shutdown threats."

Schumer, McConnell, Ryan and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), as well as their staffs, have been locked down in negotiations with the White House over the spending deals and the budget caps.

A Democratic aide said on Tuesday that the five negotiators are "continuing to make progress."

It's a reversal from last month, when negotiations appeared to go off the rails after Trump tweeted ahead of a meeting with congressional leadership that he didn't "see a deal."

Democrats believe they have leverage in the funding fight because Republicans will need their votes in the Senate. With a 52-seat majority, McConnell will need at least eight Democratic votes to pass a government-funding bill.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a perennial no vote on spending bills, said on Tuesday that he couldn't support an end-of-year bill that increased the deficit.

"I promised Kentucky to vote against reckless deficit spending and I will do just that," Paul said in a video.

Meanwhile, House GOP leadership could be forced to lean on Democrats for help if they can't win over

conservatives.

Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), the House minority whip, said Democrats would oppose another short-term spending bill unless there is a larger deal on the budget caps.

Lawmakers are staring down automatic spending cuts starting in January without a larger budget deal, because spending levels are higher than the 2018 caps set by the 2011 Budget Control Act.

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) said lawmakers are closing in on a deal on spending cap numbers.

"[There's] a lot of discussions. We get close, but they haven't crystallized," he told reporters.


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see guys,

if all you people here lose your shit with every negative/positive article posted, im pretty sure that's not good for your health. you may not make it to your legalization process.

just chill out mayne.

in December, we will get something great and the gold standard of legalization.

if it goes to 2018, there will still be relief, but it will be a shitty relief.
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I have whiplash. This back and forth is ridiculous.
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see guys,

if all you people here lose your shit with every negative/positive article posted, im pretty sure that's not good for your health. you may not make it to your legalization process.

just chill out mayne.

in December, we will get something great and the gold standard of legalization.

if it goes to 2018, there will still be relief, but it will be a shitty relief.
Dude common you were the one who said the issue will he punted to 2018. I thought u had said Ira getting done this month! I’m telling you dawg stick with ur original instinct. They will pass a separate bill! A deal was made in the meeting last week for sure. Schumer and Pelosi’s silence after the meeting gives it away.
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I have whiplash. This back and forth is ridiculous.
I want off this ride!!!
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Who said confident daca deal prior to 2018
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In previous post they were asked will they shutdown the government over daca, he responded to “we are confident that won’t be case, negotiations are going well” no his exact words but something like that.
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In previous post they were asked will they shutdown the government over daca, he responded to “we are confident that won’t be case, negotiations are going well” no his exact words but something like that.
Source or it never happened.
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