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DACA state of play: 2/7//18

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02-07-2018, 03:20 PM
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(CNN) As negotiations progress, here's the advice from top aides deeply involved in the DACA process: Don't get caught up in the highs and lows of various comments. At this stage, when things are so far from conclusion, one comment is going to sink things, and no one action is going to lead to a breakthrough.

Lawmakers and the administration are still a very long way from a resolution and they are in the middle of a lengthy process that will play out over weeks, if not longer.

So, that said:
Democrats -- in the House especially -- are very angry about chief of staff John Kelly's comments about DACA eligible individuals that didn't sign up. CNN's Tal Kopan has a great behind the scenes look.

They will be furious today because of the looming budget deal. Many will all but nuke Democratic leadership with their outrage. Several said yesterday there is also a major push to get House Speaker Paul Ryan to commit to some kind of floor action before providing the votes to the budget deal. CNN is told Ryan is very unlikely to acquiesce to this, but keep an eye on it.

What to watch:
All eyes on how Senate Majority Leader McConnell structures the Senate floor debate next week. Highly recommend reading CNN's Lauren Fox's piece on this -- which gives a good window into why Senate Democrats are relatively OK with where things are headed right now.

What really matters right now:
This remains unchanged: how lawmakers coalesce around various competing proposals in the Senate. As McConnell has made very clear -- whatever gets 60 votes wins, regardless of what's in it. There are a significant number of separate and divergent phone calls and drafting sessions going on behind the scenes to try and find some 60-vote sweet spot for every side's proposals.

Remember:
The Senate floor debate, which will start next week, will not be quick. Expect multiple weeks. This will be a lengthy process. Which, you know, is what floor debates on major issues were supposed to be like.

And your daily reminder:

No matter what the Senate does, nothing matters unless President Donald Trump is behind it. That was, is and will always be the metric for House Republicans. So in every sense, the President is the ballgame here.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/polit...lay/index.html
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maybe they were right all along, that our issue deserves to be passed on their own merit.

we deserve the center stage and next week we will have it! we are the main event now.

those limp dick mfers in DC will talk about us for weeks and weeks to come, until they get tired of us!

we're in the game now! i guess we were all just impatient (i was) that we wanted something to pass in December & January. but it is what it is, the March 5th date was the set deadline.
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I don't know how anyone can trust McConnell if he was willing to screw over his own( Collins and Flake first to come to mind).
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Nancy still working the floor to get a promise from Ryan. If she gets it, that'll be really good for us in terms of moving things forward. I hope the Republicans will give this little goodie to us.
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maybe they were right all along, that our issue deserves to be passed on their own merit.

we deserve the center stage and next week we will have it! we are the main event now.

those limp dick mfers in DC will talk about us for weeks and weeks to come, until they get tired of us!

we're in the game now! i guess we were all just impatient (i was) that we wanted something to pass in December & January. but it is what it is, the March 5th date was the set deadline.
I am with you on this bro.
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It will be really hard doung immigration as stand alone. I was really hoping for a Dream Act to be included in the 2yr spending bill. Now Dems won’t have leverage
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I don't know how anyone can trust McConnell if he was willing to screw over his own( Collins and Flake first to come to mind).
The difference between screwing over his colleagues is that it's not really on television and in the press. We are constantly in the news and have massive support.

If he decides to try those games, it won't be pretty for his already horrendous face.
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I don't know how anyone can trust McConnell if he was willing to screw over his own( Collins and Flake first to come to mind).
Because they want Trump's wall and limited immigration bill to pass.
Think simple. Building the wall and limiting the legal immigration without DACA is the other side's version of "Clean Dream Act now".
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Because they want Trump's wall and limited immigration bill to pass.
Think simple. Building the wall and limiting the legal immigration without DACA is the other side's version of "Clean Dream Act now".
There is no guarantee, they will just move on to the next big thing. What happened to health reform. They couldnt pass it so they moved to tax reform. They will skip us and go to infrastructure reform and then use us for political gain for re-election
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There is no guarantee, they will just move on to the next big thing. What happened to health reform. They couldnt pass it so they moved to tax reform. They will skip us and go to infrastructure reform and then use us for political gain for re-election
Truth spoken.
AMEN to this!
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