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SCOTUS nixes part of law requiring deportation of some immigrants convicted of crimes

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04-17-2018, 10:55 AM
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(CNN)The Supreme Court on Tuesday invalidated a provision of federal law that requires the mandatory deportation of immigrants who have been convicted of some crimes, holding that the law is unconstitutionally vague.

The case, Sessions v. Dimaya, had been closely watched to see if the justices would reveal how they will consider the Trump administration's overall push to both limit immigration and increase deportations.
As expected after the oral argument, Justice Neil Gorsuch joined with the more liberal justices for the first time since joining the court to produce a 5-4 majority invalidating the federal statute. In doing so, Gorsuch was continuing the jurisprudence of Justice Antonin Scalia, who also sided with liberals when it came to the vagueness of statutes used to convict criminal defendants.

Only eight justices heard the case last term after Scalia's death, and in late June, the court announced it would re-hear arguments this term, presumably so that Gorsuch could break some kind of a tie.
Dimaya, a native of the Philippines, was admitted to the United States in 1992 as a lawful permanent resident. In 2007 and 2009, he pleaded no contest to charges of residential burglary in California and an immigration judge determined that Dimaya was removable from the US because of his two state court convictions.

The court held that the convictions qualified for an "aggravated felony" under the Immigration and Nationality Act, which authorizes removal of non-citizens who have been convicted of some violent crimes and defines aggravated felony to include "crimes of violence."
Lawyers for Dimaya appealed the removal arguing that it was unconstitutionally vague and that their client never had fair notice that his crimes would result in deportation.
They suggested the reasoning of a 2015 Scalia opinion, which struck a provision of the Armed Career Criminal Act as unconstitutionally vague, should extend to their case.
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Which we will be one of soon enough.
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This is actually very limited in scope, it only covers one of 23 definitions of what an "aggrevated felony" is, §1101(a)(43)(f) which uses the term of "crime of violence". The definition of crime of violence was deemed too vague and the whole term thrown out.

It is actually extremely unlikely for you to get an AgFel for a crime of violence without triggering any other reason for it or any other inadmissibility or ground of removal. For example you are very likely to trigger a CIMT inadmissibility/ground of removal.

His two charges for burglary are without a doubt CIMTs, however if they aren't considered to be aggrevated felonies for any other reason(s) then he can seek cancellation of removal.
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This is actually very limited in scope, it only covers one of 23 definitions of what an "aggrevated felony" is, §1101(a)(43)(f) which uses the term of "crime of violence". The definition of crime of violence was deemed too vague and the whole term thrown out.

It is actually extremely unlikely for you to get an AgFel for a crime of violence without triggering any other reason for it or any other inadmissibility or ground of removal. For example you are very likely to trigger a CIMT inadmissibility/ground of removal.

His two charges for burglary are without a doubt CIMTs, however if they aren't considered to be aggrevated felonies for any other reason(s) then he can seek cancellation of removal.
Wouldnt CIMT crime invalidate your GC?
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Wouldnt CIMT crime invalidate your GC?
They make you deportable but they don't preclude you from seeking Cancellation of Removal. Aggrevated Felonies outright make you ineligible for relief. This is the main problem in this case, if he didn't have an Aggrevated Felony the lawyer would seek COR and continue from there.

What I assumed happened was:
1. He was placed into removal proceedings.
2. Sought LPR Cancellation of Removal.
3. Judge rejected it due to treating the burglary as a "crime of violence" and therefore an aggrevated felony, which makes him statutory ineligible.
4. Appeal to BIA that ruled the same way.
5. Appeal to 9th circuit that found "crime of violence" definition too vague and struck it down.
6. Government appealed to Supreme Court that concurred with 9th Circuit.

The case will be remanded back to the BIA that might remand it back to the IJ and he'll renew his application for Cancellation of Removal. Federal courts have limited jurisdiction in removal proceedings, they can say "you erred here, retry the case", but they can't issue a decision directly.


Aggrevated Felonies can be overcome by waiver under 212(h) however there's some limitations:
1. It can only be tied to an application for visa, adjustment of status, or admission.
So you can see it if you're applying for adjustment or coming back to US. You can't seek it standalone. In some cases LPRs will seek a re-adjustment to apply this waiver, not everyone is eligible here due to lack of a relative that can get you an IR petition.
2. It is not available if you were originally admitted as an LPR and either you committed the crime within 7 years of admission or committed an aggrevated felony at any time. This only applies if you entered with an immigrant visa and not adjusted status in US or were never a permanent resident.

As you can imagine this can lead to very strange situations where an LPR will want a removal order to get rid of their Permanent Residence so they can adjust again and seek the waiver. Or where the waiver is unavailable solely because you entered on an immigrant visa, while someone that adjusted or was never a permanent resident may still seek it. Or it being available because you got detained on entry (and therefore seeking admission) rather than just randomly somewhere too close to the border.

Due to the above I don't think he could seek 212(h) so it was COR or nothing.
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This could be used as precedent to rollback the arbitrariness of USCIS enforcement in the future.

Definitely not with the current SCOTUS makeup, but this can definitely be the case for future SCOTUS.
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Good but they also need to re-vote on the eDACA.
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