A Trump Win on DACA Could Still Be a Loss for His Administration

thedelight21 · 10-27-2019, 11:49 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune...?client=safari

As for the administration trying to bargain with [DACA], they tried that before and it didn’t work very well,” Durbin said, referring to the late 2017 negotiations. “… We thought that we were in a bargaining position with this administration and came forward with the bipartisan bill, a strong bipartisan bill, that the President invited us to offer to renew DACA. And he rejected it and came back with a horrible alternative that had more than 60 senators voting against it, including the Republicans.”

In June, the House of Representatives passed the American Dream and Promise Act which, among other things, would have provided a pathway to citizenship for DACA recipients. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has refused to take up the bill, spurning any deal that does not provide for border security and deeper immigration reforms.

Rogue414 · 10-27-2019, 02:36 PM

It’s so simple. Create a C33 green card to be renewed every 3 years with no pathway to citizenship and be done with it.

dtrt09 · 10-27-2019, 02:49 PM

Durbin, Pelosi, Schumer et al are about to authorize more funding for DHS. The ACLU just distributed a warning against giving them more billions to terrorize immigrants and refugees.

It is time to fix this mess and force a vote on the House bill by including it in the appropriations language.

frbc13 · 10-27-2019, 04:12 PM

Carnivore left, Trump already lost

thedelight21 · 10-27-2019, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue414

It’s so simple. Create a C33 green card to be renewed every 3 years with no pathway to citizenship and be done with it.

I think that would just put people in the same position. Why shouldn’t there be a pathway to citizenship? Republicans would probably argue there would be some loophole.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 10-27-2019, 05:58 PM

Reminder

2017, September

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-to-save-daca/

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Trump said that he and Congress are “fairly close” to a deal and that Republican leaders Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.) and Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) are “very much on board” with a deal that would address DACA. The agreement must include “massive border security,” Trump said in response to shouted questions about whether he had reached a deal on the terms Schumer and Pelosi had described.

what about all those immigration bills republicans couldn't even agree on?

September 13, 2017 Trump "Trump said that he and Congress are “fairly close” to a deal"

September 14, 2017 Trump "No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote."

do you guys seriously not see who is the problem here?

Not even a week, and Trump changed his mind.

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And all he had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...all-offer.html

Let this sink, Had Trump not backed out the very next morning. Right now, in 2019 you guys would traveling to your countries with your shiny conditional permanent resident cards.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...ve-taken-didnt

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Indeed, when the Dems’ offer – wall money for DACA – came to the Senate floor, it received 54 votes, despite a veto threat from Trump. Sure, it needed 60 votes to advance, but the president’s preferred immigration alternative received just 39 votes in a chamber with a Republican majority.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...=firefox-b-1-d

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President Donald Trump may want to partner with “Chuck and Nancy” on a solution for Dreamers, but House Republicans say forget it — at least for now.

GOP leaders are resisting Trump’s push to salvage the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals initiative with bipartisan cooperation. Instead, at the behest of a conservative conference that loathes the Obama-era program giving work permits to young undocumented immigrants, Republicans are crafting a solution that sticks to party orthodoxy.

A GOP working group formed by House Speaker Paul Ryan held two meetings last week to discuss immigration, and sources say there was virtually no support among members for Trump’s tentative DACA deal with Democratic leaders Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

What does Trump do later? give us that bullshit 4 Pillars demand which caused democrats to back out. Trumps new deal at best would have given us a shitty version of DACA, which I think needed to be renewed every year, harsh immigration laws, border wall.

beingoflight · 10-27-2019, 07:59 PM

Says the bloody liberal fake news source...

PapiChulo · 10-27-2019, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight

Says the bloody liberal fake news source...

can you provide an alternative source? im tired of all this lame stream media sources.

i get mines from infowars, they are very reliable!

Pianoswithoutfaith · 10-27-2019, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight

Says the bloody liberal fake news source...

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Trump said that he and Congress are “fairly close” to a deal and that Republican leaders Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.) and Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) are “very much on board” with a deal that would address DACA. T

This is fake news...?

An actual fact, is fake news to you...?

Pianoswithoutfaith · 10-27-2019, 09:31 PM

Oh wait

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Originally Posted by beingoflight

Stop watching CNN/Univision.

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Originally Posted by beingoflight

https://www-m.<b>cnn</b>.com/2019/10...1T16%3A31%3A07

Quotes CNN

Bingo, don't you have to be an idiot somewhere else?

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