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Jumpy208 10-27-2009 03:43 PM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Lots of Peruvians in the house! 'Sup. I'd go there to visit family but I wouldnt want to make a life there. If it was really up to me I'd go to Australia cuz they say it looks the most like America (The West coast at least) so it'd be an easy transition. And I just really want a beachy, surf place, which is something I'm not gonna find in Canada or Europe.

dreamerhippie 10-27-2009 05:37 PM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyjolie (Post 144947)
"a person like me"..
What are you trying to say? Anyone that lives in Mexico or has had to go back to Mexico has no goals and aspirations? You always try to come off as someone who is superior to everyone on DAP. Well, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're not. You're just like everyone else. In fact, you might be a little lower than just about everyone on DAP because all you do is brag about how you're able to go to college, your perfect grammar, and how gorgeous you are. I'm sorry, but lots of people here are in college, have great grammar, and are much more attractive than you are. \

Continued elsewhere ....


Wow, so much unwarranted vitriol. Honestly, you shouldn't have wasted all that emotion. Let me clarify what I meant by "someone like me." Someone like me is someone who is studying something that isn't going to transfer so easily outside of the US. I study US accounting principles and US tax code because I want to work in the US financial markets. What does that have to do with Mexico? Not much. I do have a double major in Spanish, but that can only take me so far in Mexico when all my classes are taught by teachers from Spain or Puerto Rico and Cuba. Someone like me is someone who would be an outcast in my "home" country because I've become so Americanized. There's no way that I'd fit in anymore. Not in a million years. Nothing good can come out of dropping an atheist in such a Catholic country. Never mind the culture. I'll never be Mexican enough for the Mexicans just like I'm not American enough for the Americans.

Don't get me wrong, I love my country, my people, my culture, and my language. I've gone out of my way to learn more about the history and to preserve my language skills. What I don't like about Mexico is the rampant corruption within the government, the influence of the drug cartels, and the general lack of opportunity for women, especially in commerce. I have a better shot at breaking the glass ceiling in the US than I ever will in Mexico. It's not about which country I hate/love more; it's not a zero-sum game. Simply put, it's about which country I have a better chance of success. I don't care about homes or bank accounts. I didn't earn any of it and as such, I don't really care about either. For some people, those would be an incentive to move or would ease the difficulty of moving. For me, it's only mine if I earned it. Capiche? Obviously not all of Mexico is in poverty. Believe it or not, but I care enough about the world to pick up a newspaper on a regular basis.

So before you get your panties in a twist, take the time to understand what success means to me. Success for me will be when I graduate from college with summa cum laude honors and my mom and little sister will be there to see me get my diploma. My mom is sick with a chronic disease. Success for me will be when she's dying and she won't have to worry about how the bills are going to be paid or who will take care of my little sister because I'll be there. I'll financially secure because I worked my ass off in the years prior. Success for me will be when my mom is dead and my little sister, a USC, will graduate high school and be college bound. The rate of Latinas dropping out of high school or getting knocked up is despicable and I'm not letting that happen to her. If I can't set that example, who will? I beat the odds, you beat the odds, and I want her to do so as well.

I don't put all this intense pressure on myself because I want to rub it another people's faces. Please, I have better things to do with my time. The only person I compete with is myself because I'm the only reliable thing I can benchmark my progress against. I pity people who compare themselves to others. They just never win that uphill battle. Sure I'm a human being just like everyone else, but the standards I set for myself are above and beyond. There's a reason why I'm in a constant state of sleep deprivation. I couldn't care less if other people feel resentment or contempt toward me. Jealousy makes people look pathetic and weak. Everything I have, I've worked for and earned on my own. Without a doubt, some of of it has been sheer luck, but most of it has been pure work ethic and ambition. Scholarships don't get handed out based on how attractive you are. It's all about merit and potential.

Failure is not an option for me. I don't strive to be liked, I endeavor to be respected by people who matter. That is to say, my family, my future employers, my professors, and anyone who is going to help me succeed. Please note I didn't mention anyone in DAP. Barring an early death, I'm setting myself up accomplishing things I never dreamed as a kid. DAP is mindless release. If it weren't for the random comedy, I'd never log in.

And for fuck's sake, I'm not going to make fun of you. You're one of the few people on DAP that I hope truly makes it in life. When the Dream Act passes, the bottom feeders are still going to find excuses to not further themselves while most people will take advantage of it like it was intended and better their lives. I expect that there will be people who will take the opportunity and turn it into something spectacular and better not only themselves, but the people around them.

You fall in that last category. I still remember when you told us about how you weren't allowed to attend college in FL by that counselor. How you left your family behind and moved to a place that you didn't really want to. I still remember you being frustrated at not having a car to get around in or a job to occupy your time. Hardships caused by circumstance tend to spark determination to overcome not only the circumstances, but the hardships as well. I fully expect that you're going to be one of those few people because I know that you want it THAT much. And lucky for you, you will have a supporting husband by your side. I'm sincerely happy for you. You found your love early in life. For what it's worth, in that regard, you're already ahead of me. Commitment scares the shit out of me.

As for the noodz, I have a folder of noodz of at least half a dozen people in DAP. Clearly we all had a lot of time this summer and I definitely wasn't the only one incapable of keeping their clothes on. It was definitely a two-way street on sharing noodz. Besides, when women pay thousands of dollars for boobies like mine, you bet I'm going to take pictures. The human body is a beautiful thing. It's the stuff of songs, paintings, sculptures, etc. I want a memento of what I used to look like once I'm a cougar. In any case, any pictures I sent will be rendered obsolete by this weekend. I'm definitely heading to a tattoo/piercing parlor and I'm just not sure in what way I want to modify myself.

PS. Thanks for the red rep. I was getting sick of all that green. I don't need help, I need less homework and more nap time.

ECW 10-27-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamerhippie (Post 144979)
Wow, so much unwarranted vitriol. Honestly, you shouldn't have wasted all that emotion. Let me clarify what I meant by "someone like me." Someone like me is someone who is studying something that isn't going to transfer so easily outside of the US. I study US accounting principles and US tax code because I want to work in the US financial markets. What does that have to do with Mexico? Not much. I do have a double major in Spanish, but that can only take me so far in Mexico when all my classes are taught by teachers from Spain or Puerto Rico and Cuba. Someone like me is someone who would be an outcast in my "home" country because I've become so Americanized. There's no way that I'd fit in anymore. Not in a million years. Nothing good can come out of dropping an atheist in such a Catholic country. Never mind the culture. I'll never be Mexican enough for the Mexicans just like I'm not American enough for the Americans.

Don't get me wrong, I love my country, my people, my culture, and my language. I've gone out of my way to learn more about the history and to preserve my language skills. What I don't like about Mexico is the rampant corruption within the government, the influence of the drug cartels, and the general lack of opportunity for women, especially in commerce. I have a better shot at breaking the glass ceiling in the US than I ever will in Mexico. It's not about which country I hate/love more; it's not a zero-sum game. Simply put, it's about which country I have a better chance of success. I don't care about homes or bank accounts. I didn't earn any of it and as such, I don't really care about either. For some people, those would be an incentive to move or would ease the difficulty of moving. For me, it's only mine if I earned it. Capiche? Obviously not all of Mexico is in poverty. Believe it or not, but I care enough about the world to pick up a newspaper on a regular basis.

So before you get your panties in a twist, take the time to understand what success means to me. Success for me will be when I graduate from college with summa cum laude honors and my mom and little sister will be there to see me get my diploma. My mom is sick with a chronic disease. Success for me will be when she's dying and she won't have to worry about how the bills are going to be paid or who will take care of my little sister because I'll be there. I'll financially secure because I worked my ass off in the years prior. Success for me will be when my mom is dead and my little sister, a USC, will graduate high school and be college bound. The rate of Latinas dropping out of high school or getting knocked up is despicable and I'm not letting that happen to her. If I can't set that example, who will? I beat the odds, you beat the odds, and I want her to do so as well.

I don't put all this intense pressure on myself because I want to rub it another people's faces. Please, I have better things to do with my time. The only person I compete with is myself because I'm the only reliable thing I can benchmark my progress against. I pity people who compare themselves to others. They just never win that uphill battle. Sure I'm a human being just like everyone else, but the standards I set for myself are above and beyond. There's a reason why I'm in a constant state of sleep deprivation. I couldn't care less if other people feel resentment or contempt toward me. Jealousy makes people look pathetic and weak. Everything I have, I've worked for and earned on my own. Without a doubt, some of of it has been sheer luck, but most of it has been pure work ethic and ambition. Scholarships don't get handed out based on how attractive you are. It's all about merit and potential.

Failure is not an option for me. I don't strive to be liked, I endeavor to be respected by people who matter. That is to say, my family, my future employers, my professors, and anyone who is going to help me succeed. Please note I didn't mention anyone in DAP. Barring an early death, I'm setting myself up accomplishing things I never dreamed as a kid. DAP is mindless release. If it weren't for the random comedy, I'd never log in.

And for fuck's sake, I'm not going to make fun of you. You're one of the few people on DAP that I hope truly makes it in life. When the Dream Act passes, the bottom feeders are still going to find excuses to not further themselves while most people will take advantage of it like it was intended and better their lives. I expect that there will be people who will take the opportunity and turn it into something spectacular and better not only themselves, but the people around them.

You fall in that last category. I still remember when you told us about how you weren't allowed to attend college in FL by that counselor. How you left your family behind and moved to a place that you didn't really want to. I still remember you being frustrated at not having a car to get around in or a job to occupy your time. Hardships caused by circumstance tend to spark determination to overcome not only the circumstances, but the hardships as well. I fully expect that you're going to be one of those few people because I know that you want it THAT much. And lucky for you, you will have a supporting husband by your side. I'm sincerely happy for you. You found your love early in life. For what it's worth, in that regard, you're already ahead of me. Commitment scares the shit out of me.

As for the noodz, I have a folder of noodz of at least half a dozen people in DAP. Clearly we all had a lot of time this summer and I definitely wasn't the only one incapable of keeping their clothes on. It was definitely a two-way street on sharing noodz. Besides, when women pay thousands of dollars for boobies like mine, you bet I'm going to take pictures. The human body is a beautiful thing. It's the stuff of songs, paintings, sculptures, etc. I want a memento of what I used to look like once I'm a cougar. In any case, any pictures I sent will be rendered obsolete by this weekend. I'm definitely heading to a tattoo/piercing parlor and I'm just not sure in what way I want to modify myself.

PS. Thanks for the red rep. I was getting sick of all that green. I don't need help, I need less homework and more nap time.

The way you state what success means to you makes you seem so arrogant for some reason. It just has an elitist overtone to it.

2dreamORnot2dream 10-27-2009 06:56 PM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Come on ladies, settle this like adults… preferably in a jello wrestling ring ;)

Feenmi 10-27-2009 07:11 PM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ECW (Post 144985)
The way you state what success means to you makes you seem so arrogant for some reason. It just has an elitist overtone to it.

It's ok to say Jolie had it right.



:lol:

Fish 10-27-2009 11:51 PM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ECW (Post 144985)
The way you state what success means to you makes you seem so arrogant for some reason. It just has an elitist overtone to it.

I think it's perfectly okay for driven, successful people like Dreamerhippie to "show off", so to speak. If you're great, feel free to brag about your strengths. It's good to have self-esteem and confidence. Unlike those annoying mothereffers who don't have anything to show for and continue to go on about how great they are. Dreamer's got something to show for. So let her. The rest of you people who keep on saying she's "elitist" or "arrogant" are simply jealous. What's the problem with awesome people proving their awesomeness? We all should be happy for everybody and not tear each other down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyjolie (Post 144947)

You're always saying that your aim isn't to be liked.. Is it also your aim to not be respected? If so, congratulations, you are neither liked nor respected. Supposedly you are always honest and blunt. Well honestly, you come off as more delusional than anything. People are nice to you because they pity the way you throw yourselves at them and they way you don't seem to have any self respect. So please, instead of wasting your time trying to impress everyone in DAP or "be honest", go get some counseling or something.

I don't think she cares. Honesty and bluntness, at least in my opinion, are very much needed when talking to stupid people. I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm just thinking about my real life situations where those two characteristics served me well. And I don't think people are nice to her because they pity her. I think Dreamerhippie's a very amusing person if you can just get past her over-self confidence and impatience.

ECW 10-28-2009 12:13 AM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 145029)
I think it's perfectly okay for driven, successful people like Dreamerhippie to "show off", so to speak. If you're great, feel free to brag about your strengths. It's good to have self-esteem and confidence. Unlike those annoying mothereffers who don't have anything to show for and continue to go on about how great they are. Dreamer's got something to show for. So let her. The rest of you people who keep on saying she's "elitist" or "arrogant" are simply jealous. What's the problem with awesome people proving their awesomeness? We all should be happy for everybody and not tear each other down.


I don't think she cares. Honesty and bluntness, at least in my opinion, are very much needed when talking to stupid people. I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm just thinking about my real life situations where those two characteristics served me well. And I don't think people are nice to her because they pity her. I think Dreamerhippie's a very amusing person if you can just get past her over-self confidence and impatience.

It has nothing to do with being jealous, cause no matter what individual success any of us builds up while we are undocumented will not matter here untill we are all legalize and can fairly compete against each other.

unthinkable 10-28-2009 12:20 AM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Hey guys, let her vent... seriously, she must have lot of time on her hands if shes writing an effing essay bout whatnot.... I doubt that anyone actually read the whole thing besides the person who wrote it.

juang 10-28-2009 01:14 AM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieola (Post 145035)
Hey guys, let her vent... seriously, she must have lot of time on her hands if shes writing an effing essay bout whatnot.... I doubt that anyone actually read the whole thing besides the person who wrote it.

I was going to read it, but it was just too long. I guess I wasn't the only one.

unthinkable 10-28-2009 01:29 AM

Re: Which country would to move to if/when you choose to leave?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juang (Post 145037)
I was going to read it, but it was just too long. I guess I wasn't the only one.

Juang, please refrain from taking my side....


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