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Whats good folks??? First of all, I'm sorry if a discussion about this topic has already been created. I couldn't find one. Let's be realistic about this. If Dream Act doesn't pass the senate, we are most likely not going to see any sort of immigration reform legislation in the near future. Do you guys have plan B or any alternative options for the immediate future? I'm considering moving out of this country and applying for residency in Canada as I have an uncle and aunt who recently became Canadian citizens.

Also, Don't take this as a negative thread. I'm sure that the vote this week will be as close as it gets.

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2011 is not the election year so I think CIR/DA will be brought up. Reid has the power bring the bill back as he will still be the Senate majority leader.
How long is the process for you to migrate to Canada?

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stfu da user

no age over 30, you're done

please leave this forum

stop wasting people's time

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I'm not sure but it can't be that long. My uncle and aunt moved there with my cousins just couple years ago and now they are not only permanent residents, but straight up citizens of the Canada. I think Canada uses a points system. Only thing is that I would have to go back to my home country and then have my uncle sponsor me.

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You leave my thread you douche..

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Well i was gonna make this kind of thread when DA fails. (we don't know yet tho)

But since you started I might as well tell.

I will finish remaining 2 years of B.S and then get M.S. in EECS in like 1 year fast( or 2 years with less stress), and get the hell out of here when no immigration reform passes.

Then I will work in the fields of my specialty in my home country and then try for
1. Canada (I think I can make it with like 74-77 points after 1-2 year of related work and apply for green card. But I need to get that damn 8 points of French fluency. otherwise I would be very borderline.)
2. Australia (I would be borderline by point system but I will enroll as Ph.D student and then I would be qualified. =) )
3. Japan (My Japanese skill is sharpening everyday memorizing 20 words a day and kanjis, and I know for sure Japan has very advanced science. I will learn a lot of science that maybe much ahead of the US. And besides I like Japanese culture than my home country culture.)
4. France (I heard this country is very tough to immigrate. Not even by marriages. But since I will be enrolling French and will keep continue here in UCLA, I should be alright at least in intermediate conversation and reading. )

That's my plan for now.

Unfortunately, I really have bad feeling that this DA will fail by a few Senate vote and will bog down even in the next 6 years. So I should prepare now so that I can apply for those country as quick as possible when I arrive my home country.

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What about Brazil?

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I hope to finish off my BS in Mechanical Engineering and then... I dunno. China? My home country has no industry or natural resources so there's not really any engineering jobs there. I've looked into being a merchant marine or UN worker as well.

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I don't think so. Not prolly until Obama get reelected and near leaving season maybe. We can't also predict how long Reid can be influential in his party.

Canada is based on point system. If you get over the minimal point like 67, you are most likely qualified I heard. Since most of us will have high education degree (MA or MS gives you full 25 points) and most of us are fluent in English, so that is like another 18 points. All of us are under 49, so get max points there as well. I think 10 points for that. If you are fluent in French it helps a lot. 8 points. And you will need some sort of work experience in your home country that will be related to your job in Canada. Meanwhile you need to have over 10K Canadain dollars minimum unless Canadian company want to hire you. So save your money in your home country or even now.

I think you get like big 14+ points there. And you can get another big points if Canadian company want to hire you. If you got family there, that gives more points. So yeah... Not too bad if you do your best.

Sometimes, you have to put yourself in 30+ people's shoes. I know I am well under 30 but I would feel so disappointed if I would be excluded. I do hope 30+ people can benefit later, not too long from current bill if it ever passes. I really think they deserve some chances too but oh well... at least hurting them wouldn't be so nice to them...

Brazil is really fast economic growing country but believe it or not, just about 1-2 years ago, they had amnesty for undocumented immigrants in Brazil. I think it was like February 2009 and they accepted to citizen anyone who had come to Brazil 1 month prior. But I hear that Brazil can be dangerous. The rich and the poor gap is like the highest and many crimes are reported from what I read.

I would rather suggest like Canada, NZ, or Australia. They have much clear immigration system,, which I consider now.

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China is the #2 Economy and the fastest growing. You speak Chinese right? What about Singapore?

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As far as I know, China doesn't want immigrants. Instead I think they are trying to send their citizens to different countries because of over populations. What makes you think there is 1 child only policy? But there may be exceptions.

But consider China's less human rights than here. Their government really looks crooked in my opinion. I don't think I wanna live there even though my Chinese skill is ok at least in conversation. I went up to half way of the Rosetta Stone Chinese Level 3 and need to finish them up this winter break. =D

Anyway, aren't you from India, DA User? If I am right, India is fast growing country too. In fact I remember reading just the title in Time Magazine that India will surpass China.

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No, I'm from the former soviet union and I speak russian.

It'd be nice to get a job with a 'western' company operating a plant in China. They pay very well and they may send you to other plants that they have around the world. I'll have an ABET-accredited engineering degree and hopefully that's worth -something-...?

:(

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China is a Communist Gov't so very minimum rights right?

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Politically yes.
Economically no.

Not as bad as decades ago but no where near Western Countries or S. Korea or Japan or any other developed nations.

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Australia is a good option.

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You wont that much difference about human right in china unless u r heavy into politics. The only thing in China that scares me right now is the high inflation rate, on food and housing.

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China is doing the transition SLOWLY, not like the fuck-tards in my country that when they heard democracy; they all went to stock up on ammunition.

Try having 1.2 billion Chinese people and each of them wanting to do w/e they want. When I see fox news lie straight up like that, I'm glad China has some type of media control. It destroys a country when you have a kukupuff on t.v telling people that 911 was an inside job,

As far as the inflation goes, they have lowered their currency artificially and will get it back up to living standards once they are good enough to survive as a consumer based economy; once the u.s is on the decline.

give it time, they have 1.2 billion people; it ain't easy

the land of the "sue me" ain't that free anymore

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oh teacher teacher, I know!.. yes Billy: We will make more phone calls!!

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I don't know what I can do with Neuroscience degree from a very small college so I will never look back at my old dreams that I am still holding on to and I am ganna start a new life with new mindset. I am ganna go for a field where I can make good money instead, so I can live normal, stable life.

I am going back to my home country. At the beginning, I will probably make money out of teaching job. As soon as I save enough I will go off around the world, just traveling. Then Im ganna come back with a fresh, healed, and happy mind so I can start schooling again. Once I get my degree and get a stable job, I will join all kinds of good, volunteer organization. I am going to take some time to go help poor kids around the world every year. I am also ganna learn the bartending skills so I can be a bartender as a hobby or side-job. Once I save good enough money, I am ganna open my own, small bar and I am ganna donate all the tips I collected to my own charity organization. I will spend week days at work and weekends at my bar. And one day I am ganna buy Jeep wrangler unlimited, drive as much as I want and go everywhere I want to go. Oh, I am also ganna date a lot of people. I will read books, watch movies, learn instruments or new languages when I am bored or about to get depressed again.

Someone told me that if you planned something in very detail, realistic way, then achieving 50% of that is still a success.

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u can leave this forum

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I will probably get married, have kids, write a few books, ect.

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Be sad, mad.
No but really, I don't know. I'll probably marry someone, and yeah, you know.
-_________-

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Anyone have any insight on how complicated is it to immigrate to Spain being Mexican??

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I have relatives that went to Spain to get their Phd.
I really don't know how complicated it was, I just know that it took time and they had the advantage of getting their phd there.

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hmm,
From what little I recall, I thought that as a student you could only hold a part time job, but weren't considered a national resident, and that you needed at least 5 years as a legal resident to gain citizenship so that seems like a roadblock.

I could be wrong though

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I seriously don't know. I've only seen them twice in my life. I know they are doing a residency there as well. And I think I also heard something about the 5 years thing. I can assure you though, the process to get their visas did take time. Sorry, I know it doesn't help much but it is all I know.

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IF DA doesn't pass (I know it will not be passed), can anyone else educate me about how do my relatives, who are US citizens, sponsors an undocumented student like me?

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First of all, Who in you family is a US Citizen and who old are you?

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Going back to South Korea and joining the military there most likely. After I do my time I'll gather up some money and go to Canada or something; huge ass Asian population there and all.

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Fcking hell, another one of these threads.

*headdesk*

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Fdxxr

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I plan to stay here just because they don't want me here.

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In Spain they are paying people to go back to their home country....look it up.

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jajajaja....go to the tijuana strip they hire donkeys

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you are a grade a asshole.


I'm from Brazil. There's a reason so many people leave.

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Akwjwj

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This is our plan B:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...latino-revolt/

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Brazil's economy is on the rise. The women are so beautiful there.

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Alwkwk

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way to represent this board