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Originally Posted by Smuggo
That is ridiculous. On an individual basis, a tuition paying student attending a state university costs the school money. It is not a profitable venture, or else we would have unlimited room in these state universities because the income would be almost unlimited for as long as people want to go. Well, that's not the case. Room in state universities is in high demand, and there is very limited space.
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You dont have unlimited room because of something called a selective process. I am about to tell you a secret, state schools still compete to be ranked high. Its as easy as that. Schools do have a budget they want to maintain. And there is near unlimited room, its called a community college.
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I haven't said that children of illegals should go back home. I'm for finding a solution for them that involves staying here too. But automatic citizenship through going to college is not the right way to do it. It's not fair to so many others who deserve it more. I am not for divying up seats for state colleges purely on the basis of who performs best academically either. There are plenty of great students who deserve it more and if they get one less "A" than an illegal kid, then big woop. They're citizens, they come first. I think you should know, however, that illegal high school students get significantly worse grades and have higher dropout rates than do legal students. Food for thought.
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There are more than just going to school. You also have to be an upstanding person of near flawless record. A system which punishes immigrants far harsher than a normal citizen. I think that is a fair and just way.
College is not the only way to get on the path of citizenship. You can also join the military for 2 years, so your whole reasoning on "One less A" holds no water. 2nd, its a PATH to citizenship, which would mean the person would be a residents but must have a clean record for the next 5 years, which mixed in with the penalties being far harsher for immigrants is a very tight rope to be on. Lets take your HS students get worse grades and say its true, do you also know they would get no financial assistance of any kind for there family, and must work jobs, of which most are out of there hand. Its far more complex than saying just saying they get worse grades.
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Enough legal immigrants do it when they come here. My dad was born in Germany. He came here with his parents, his brother, and his sister when he was 9. They were all legal, and they flew here alone and learned the language. Difficult as it may be, you *do* have a choice when you turn 18 and become aware that you are illegally staying here when you know it is not your country. The choices suck either way you go, but you had the choice all the same. You chose the illegal way. You are not somehow owed citizenship and school for doing that. Sorry.
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Wow, the time i wasted on replying to you. What a waste, your colors are showing.