do NOT fall for pyramid scheme.

Network Marketing?? Are you kidding me?

I go away from this forum for a few months and I come back and I see advice like this flowing around?

Guys, do NOT and I mean DO NOT work for these multi level marketing companies. Sure. You can make a few bucks if you really try hard but is this the life you really want?

Let me to tell you straight up guys. If you go for these companies then you do not deserve the dream act. Dream Act is for those who work hard to achieve a dream. If you have done well in school and want a real career you shouldn't even TOUCH this. Not as a part time not as anything.

These companies require you to be a sellout. Basically you will sell things to the "soft" market. AkA your family and friends. The payout is RARELY reasonable and most of all you lose a bit of humanity in you.

I am currently working with a firm in the financial district in NYC. But I used to be a Dreamer too so I know how you feel. This shouldn't be your last ditch effort or last resort. LEARN something. STUDY HARD. It WILL pay off. Trust me. It will. Don't waste your time with this stuff cus you have 60-80 years ahead of you. Status will come to you one day whether you like it or not. Don't be impatient. Don't be desperate. I can tell you straight up that these firms are out to get you.

Their product is not their product. YOU are their product. MLM / pyramid scheme makes money off YOU. YOU are the product. The structure and the scheme of the company is what makes them money. Don't do it. Don't bother asking for another's opinion or start googling to hope for positive reinforcement on what stupid shit you're about to do. I'm right. They're wrong. Do as I say.

Only a fool believes prosperity in life comes from anything but hard work.

-Q

Lay off the sauce.

In much softer words I agree with staying away from Multi level Marketing like Quixar, Mary Kate, Vector and etc...

As much as possible.

You have to hound down family and friends to get a sale, and have them sign up under you. There are people who have strongly believed and hoped in it and put all their efforts into them to get minimum results. Do a google search of whatever company you are considering to read the stories.

The guys up top make money in a pyramid, especially after you go to one of their paid training seminars.

Don't get me wrong, their concept of owning your own business and doing your own thing is right on target. Except when you work for them its not really your own thing it's their thing.

If you have a trade such as website work (which can be learned) you can offer that to others online, or even use craigslist to see what you can do. Providing what people need never fails.

I agree with this guy. Some statistics on Amway: More than half of their "sellers" make NO MONEY at all, and the average distributor makes less than $100 a month.

I have always thought that network marketing was a scam, and that it's business model was pretty much a legit pyramid scheme.

You can make money in marketing though, such as direct marketing, working as a sales representative for a variety of things like cable TV, satellite TV, water filters, etc.... Though you need to have a set of soft(people) and technical skills in order to be a successful sales rep.

I have been reading a book on MLM. It talks about how although it hard to get rich, nonetheless, it is possible. It talks about how people that bash the system are those who quit early in the stage, did not give it their full effort and hence, concluded that it does not work.

If you guys are talking bad about this system and are suggesting to everyone else not to do it, tell us your personal experience with it. Tell us with how many people you actually talked to and w mahow you tried to use the system. Dont tell people to "google" information and count how many bad comments are out about MLM.

The people that I talk that practice the system have full time jobs and are doing MLM on the side, to try to get off of their full time jobs. Many of them have respectable jobs such as general contractors and business owners. I see it this way: there are those who work hard, and there are those who work smart. I have been working construction the past few years, and in my mind, there just has to be an easier way to make a living.

I am not going to tell you to do it, or not to do it. The choice is yours. However i will tell you that whatever you do, that you strive to become the best at it. I believe that is what dreaming is all about. It's not about trying to fit in well with the rest of society.

Very very few make very much money at all. Many of them abide by the 'fake it 'til you make it" rule. In other words they don't make nearly as much as you think they would.

Last summer I met MANY people on the west coast who do MLM but not so many on the east coast. I met this one couple who quit their job to do this full time. They were not making much money at all but I also met people who were very successful at it. So yeah, I have met successful people...I've just met more of the contrary.

Many people misrepresent their company's plan as a way to get a lot of easy money quick. Once they can't achieve large success in a short time they become negative toward the marketing plan as opposed to taking a real look at themselves and their individual efforts in relation to realistic goals and achievements.

There are exceptions, but for the most part you may not do much most of the time. Ultimately it depends on the product and company.

Encouraging words but still naive. I agree that it is not my place to tell you not to do it. Ultimately this thread is addressed to those who step into MLM to make money because they don't have the status to pursue other options, not those people who have true desire and passion for MLMs. If there are such people, then so be it.

I also agree with striving to become the best at "it." But in this case, what is "it"? Is it becoming a very persuasive advertiser and working to sell a product you believe in? Of course not. That would be real marketing. If you read MLM books then you should know the ultimate goal is to have OTHER people join the organization. The money they invested into the company hoping to pursue a better job ends up in your pocket. Now they have to find other suckers, whom also contribute to your pocket.

The difference between this and business owners making a killing off of stocks and poker games, which are also zero-sum games is two is against other people willing to gamble, and one is targeted to naive people who want to materialize hard work into money.

Congratulations! You definitely became good at something

I thought I had already made a few posts warning about this crap? Maybe not?

Agree with much of what you say, but working on wallstreet+sell out go hand in hand. Hell if you're not cheering the gulf spill or the housing market debacle after you've shorted BP and responsible banks and aren't crossing your fingers for Steve Jobs to kick the bucket (oops cat is out of the bag), then you're not in the right district.

so to you I repeat this sage advice:

For your information, Wall St isn't just banks. Because the world is so small now, if you do anything with finance you are probably related to the street. It's cool that you throw words like short around. Like I said in the last post, its different from stocks because in the market, everyone is betting against each other. Information and technology is what conquers. In order to successfully short, there must be someone on the other side buying.

You make it sound like whenever something bad happens, "Wall Street" just jumps right in and profit. If profit is that easy to come by then we wouldnt have banks that collapsed.

skip the lecture, I know how the market works. It's you I'm worried about; seeing how you seem to think that wall street doesn't jump in and profit every time there's a fiancial disaster....