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“This is what immigration reform under Obama has gotten us,” says Abdolliah, who traveled to Tacoma to rally public attention to Luna’s case. “The right to spend up to five thousand dollars to get a loved one out of jail. When Obama says he isn’t deporting dreamers, he’s lying.”
“Marco Rubio is being a lot more authentic with us,” Abdollahi added.


We are going to support whoever will come out and talk about the issue,” said Gabby Pacheco, a 26-year-old special education teacher from Miami and DREAM Act activist. “Rubio realizes this is key for us. Even if he is only doing it for political reasons, we’re willing to listen.”
The dreamers are backed by Latino Democrats on Capitol Hill, who feel betrayed by Obama administration’s boasts of deporting a record annual average of 400,000 people over the last four years. Rep. Luis Guitierrez of Illinois told Politico he is so confident in Rubio’s concept that liberal allies are accusing him of being the Florida senator’s new “best friend.”


The Obama White House hates the idea. Last week, presidential advisers Celia Munoz and Valerie Jarrett tried to discourage the dreamers from embracing Rubio’s proposal


Pacheco, who attended the meeting, was not impressed with the White House appeal.
“You can’t wait until next year if you’re getting deported this year,” she said. She described the White House officials as “very strategic” in their opposition to Rubio.


To the dreamers, Obama is just as hypocritical. “A lot of folks want us to be against it,” Abdollahi said. “At the same time we hear from Obama administration that they’re not deporting dreamers. They’re tricking us. That’s what make us supportive of Rubio.”
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Put the pressure on the Obama administration!

This is getting interesting.
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Immense pressure RIGHT ON OBAMA at this moment. He better come clean this time and support it or straight up say he doesn't support it. You can't have both ways!! Been saying this over and over...the can can't be kicked any further. I'm sure everyone here realizes this by now!! Surely this is the final battle for Dream Act! This is Dream Act vs. Politics. The public support is there, we're not worried about that!!
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We need to push for the DA.
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^ No. The pressure is on. We don't want flowery rhetoric. If the GOP votes yes on the Rubio bill but democrats block it and Romney proposes an immigration plan, Romney deserves a shot. We don't want flowery rhetoric. We want relief no matter who delivers it. THE PRESSURE IS ON OBAMA. HE CANNOT STAND THERE AND FEED US FALSE EXCUSES ABOUT SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS AND THIS AND THAT. THE PRESSURE IS ON. PUNTO.
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You are dead wrong. The Obama administration knows there is no real threat of losing the Hispanic vote, or even a portion of it for that matter. It also knows there is no real threat of losing this election. Therefore there is no rush to pass the DREAM Act.

It's not like Hispanics are suddenly going to vote for Romney with the hope that he passes immigration reform or the Rubio proposal.

Obama is for the DREAM Act, but there is no urgency from his administration to pass it.

So, there is no pressure on Obama. He can have it both ways, and he will.

I can easily foresee the DREAM Act can being kicked down the road for an indefinite length of time.
If that's the case, he is as fucked up as Romney to this point because he promised us CIR, didn't deliver shit, is not even trying to do shit, and just uses rhetoric.
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No one cares what we want. WE don't matter in the whole scheme of things. So anyone can give us as much flowery rhetoric as they want.

Americans (voters) don't give a damn about CIR, so the issue is not even in play for this election.
Pressure is on.
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You are dead wrong. The Obama administration knows there is no real threat of losing the Hispanic vote, or even a portion of it for that matter. It also knows there is no real threat of losing this election. Therefore there is no rush to pass the DREAM Act.

It's not like Hispanics are suddenly going to vote for Romney with the hope that he passes immigration reform or the Rubio proposal.

Obama is for the DREAM Act, but there is no urgency from his administration to pass it.

So, there is no pressure on Obama. He can have it both ways, and he will.

I can easily foresee the DREAM Act can being kicked down the road for an indefinite length of time.


I can understand why you would say that, but I do beg to differ. The facts speak for themselves. Obama did have the house and senate for 4 years and was not able to pass anything, and during the 2008 elections, he even said he would enact the DA within the first year, where did that go?

There is obvious pressure, immigration has now been up to states to deal with. If Obama did something with immigration we wouldn't see bills like the one in Arizona being created.

Immigration is a FEDERAL issue, and right now Obama doesn't have the spine or backbone to get it done, so its just right that the pressure is on him.
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