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Who cares about citizenship?

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01-18-2013, 06:01 PM
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Lately, I've began to notice what card the democrats are playing.

Personally, I believe that a lot of people on the left actually want immigration to be a key issue. I don't care about citizenship; I don't believe that elections are determined by individuals, but rather a small group of people so I don't care about voting.

All I want is a legal PERMANENT status and the right to travel out of the country.

What about you guys? Do you actually want to be a citizen of the United States?
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01-18-2013, 06:04 PM
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Yes, I do feel like a citizen of this country. I've lived here most of my life, and it's basically all I know.
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01-18-2013, 06:12 PM
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honestly, i do want to be a citizen. i'm the only one in my family who isnt. it would be nice to have the same passport as everyone in the family and know that i can for the government if i want to.
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01-18-2013, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar CS View Post
Lately, I've began to notice what card the democrats are playing.

Personally, I believe that a lot of people on the left actually want immigration to be a key issue. I don't care about citizenship; I don't believe that elections are determined by individuals, but rather a small group of people so I don't care about voting.

All I want is a legal PERMANENT status and the right to travel out of the country.

What about you guys? Do you actually want to be a citizen of the United States?
Yes because there are alot more things that you can do being a citizen than with a greencard. Such as some job (Firefighter, etc,etc) Also you can do anything and won't have any restrictions whatsoever.
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01-18-2013, 06:18 PM
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I do want citizenship.

1. I do want to vote. Spending my life in US since teenager limited my ability as a voter. I still think every vote counts.
2.There are a lot of jobs that are only applicable for US citizen, epecially in engineering field.
3. US passport will provide easier access to travel abroad.
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01-18-2013, 06:20 PM
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Green card: get involved in crimes (unlucky and maybe implicated in a felony), deported the next day

Citizenship: not deported.

Citizenship is way safe play.
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01-18-2013, 06:32 PM
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So i personally am not so obsessed with getting a US citizenship as any major reform that passes will take about 8 years to get a 'green card' and another 5 years on top of that to get the citizenship. All i care for is that i'll be able to work legally and maybe travel outside the country. Not shooting for the stars here, a permanent work permit would suffice at this point.
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01-18-2013, 06:43 PM
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Green card: get involved in crimes (unlucky and maybe implicated in a felony), deported the next day

Citizenship: not deported.

Citizenship is way safe play.
Adjusted citizens do get deported their status revoke btw rarely but still
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01-18-2013, 06:45 PM
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Citizenship is like locking in. Never have to worry about expiry dates, extensions, fulfilling certain req's etc.
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01-18-2013, 06:48 PM
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Lately, I've began to notice what card the democrats are playing.

Personally, I believe that a lot of people on the left actually want immigration to be a key issue. I don't care about citizenship; I don't believe that elections are determined by individuals, but rather a small group of people so I don't care about voting.

All I want is a legal PERMANENT status and the right to travel out of the country.

What about you guys? Do you actually want to be a citizen of the United States?
I know exactly what you're saying and have the same fears with regards to how this is being played out.I do believe there is a compromise which maybe able to placate both sides and end this stalemate....but I wonder if it would even be considered.

I think the potential of citizenship should be included in any Dream bill but different than past iterations.One cannot fully participate in a society without it.
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