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CA. Instate tuition might be repeald!!!!!

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10-06-2010, 03:32 PM
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Last night i was watching Univision and they said That in 3 months a judge was going to to decide weather or not AB 540 violates a 1996 Federal LAW.

The Federal law says that if a state is giving instate tuiotion to illegals then they have to give it to every citizen in the U.S.

AB 540 COULD BE OVERTURNED, WE WILL HAVE TO PAY OUT OF STATE TUITION OR DROPOUT OF SCHOOL!!!
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Last night i was watching Univision and they said That in 3 months a judge was going to to decide weather or not AB 540 violates a 1996 Federal LAW.

The Federal law says that if a state is giving instate tuiotion to illegals then they have to give it to every citizen in the U.S.

AB 540 COULD BE OVERTURNED, WE WILL HAVE TO PAY OUT OF STATE TUITION OR DROPOUT OF SCHOOL!!!
This is interesting. I wonder how they would deal with AB 540 students if it is repealed. Here in Washington, we have HB 1079, which allows us to get in-state tuition when we sign an affidavit. HOWEVER, when I signed the affidavit in my second school (the first time I signed it I was only 17 or 18, didn't really pay attention to the fine print) , I noticed it said that the affidavit is only used to determine resident status and that once they get that info the affidavit itself is thrown out.

I wonder if this is just the policy of my second school or what.

What I'm trying to get at is : I wonder if there are records of AB 540 students kept somewhere, or if any record gets thrown out like apparently the HB 1079 paper does. If there is no record, they can't kick you out if you're already enrolled...

Of course I hope it doesn't get repealed because if anything, it would certainly hurt future dreamers.
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They won't throw us out they will just charge so much money that we will not be able to pay for it.
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Be grateful you got some benefit of the law while it still existed. A lot of us never had such luck.
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This is interesting. I wonder how they would deal with AB 540 students if it is repealed. Here in Washington, we have HB 1079, which allows us to get in-state tuition when we sign an affidavit. HOWEVER, when I signed the affidavit in my second school (the first time I signed it I was only 17 or 18, didn't really pay attention to the fine print) , I noticed it said that the affidavit is only used to determine resident status and that once they get that info the affidavit itself is thrown out.

I wonder if this is just the policy of my second school or what.

What I'm trying to get at is : I wonder if there are records of AB 540 students kept somewhere, or if any record gets thrown out like apparently the HB 1079 paper does. If there is no record, they can't kick you out if you're already enrolled...

Of course I hope it doesn't get repealed because if anything, it would certainly hurt future dreamers.
In California, there's a record of AB 540 student. How do I know it? My friend works in the administration of a local community college.

Basically, for every AB 540 student, they have a special note in the record saying that the student is qualified under AB 540. So, if AB 540 is repealed, the school could easily run a check on the students and charge them higher tuition in the next semester/quarter.
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In California, there's a record of AB 540 student. How do I know it? My friend works in the administration of a local community college.

Basically, for every AB 540 student, they have a special note in the record saying that the student is qualified under AB 540. So, if AB 540 is repealed, the school could easily run a check on the students and charge them higher tuition in the next semester/quarter.
This is upsetting. I'm sad they keep a record because it "marks" undocumented students as "different". What happens when you're talking to a school counselor or adviser (or whoever) and he sees that little note? Will he treat you differently? Maybe. It's like giving us driver's licenses in a different color, or somehow making a note that we are undocumented, opening the door to a lot of discrimination.

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In California, there's a record of AB 540 student. How do I know it? My friend works in the administration of a local community college.

Basically, for every AB 540 student, they have a special note in the record saying that the student is qualified under AB 540. So, if AB 540 is repealed, the school could easily run a check on the students and charge them higher tuition in the next semester/quarter.
Are you serious? So does that mean to say that anyone who works at the school can find out that you are AB540 student? I thought that it's confidential...
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Are you serious? So does that mean to say that anyone who works at the school can find out that you are AB540 student? I thought that it's confidential...
Well, it still is confidential. Anybody that has access to your records can see it. They can't give out your info though..
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Are you serious? So does that mean to say that anyone who works at the school can find out that you are AB540 student? I thought that it's confidential...
only people in the administration office has access to the data. Counselor doesn't have such access.

Nevertheless, don't panic... lol, a U.S. citizen can also qualify under AB 540 So, a mark of AB 540 doesn't necessarily indicate your immigration status.
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only people in the administration office has access to the data. Counselor doesn't have such access.

Nevertheless, don't panic... lol, a U.S. citizen can also qualify under AB 540 So, a mark of AB 540 doesn't necessarily indicate your immigration status.
Good to know. Thanks.

But going back to the original topic, I don't understand how this case even went to the supreme court!! I mean, U.S citizens and Permanent residence can qualify too if they meet the requirements. Out of state residents can get in-state after a year. Why are they even arguing about having to give USC the same rights when obviously, if they meet the requirements, then they can get the same benefits. http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/09/30/...esno-with.html

According to this article, if the law is overturned, public universities in CA would have to refund everyone who paid out of state tuition fees; that is outrageous. Praying to God that this won't be repealed. Especially when most of us living in CA pay taxes!!

BTW does anyone know how the supreme court cases work? After they hear the arguments, how long does it take to make their decision? I think 3 months is too early. I thought it takes a year or two?
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