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Political Gridlock and the chance for a Dream Act

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07-22-2011, 06:59 PM
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Throughout the time that I've followed the Dream Act never have I seen such a political spectrum than the one we are watching today. As you might know, conservatives are against any type of legislation that would fix the legal status of someone who has broken an immigration law. But its not only that they are against. They are against paying the debt that Americans as a whole owe. They are against any policy that democrats propose. They are against common sense agreements that don't give them 100% of their view.

I think our best chance for the Dream Act to pass will be in 2012. When the GOP starts hunting for votes that could vote either Romney or Bachmann into the Presidential seat. Or this could happen after, if President Obama wins this upcoming election. Notice that if Obama loses, we are practically screwed for another 4-8 years.
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Throughout the time that I've followed the Dream Act never have I seen such a political spectrum than the one we are watching today. As you might know, conservatives are against any type of legislation that would fix the legal status of someone who has broken an immigration law. But its not only that they are against. They are against paying the debt that Americans as a whole owe. They are against any policy that democrats propose. They are against common sense agreements that don't give them 100% of their view.

I think our best chance for the Dream Act to pass will be in 2012. When the GOP starts hunting for votes that could vote either Romney or Bachmann into the Presidential seat. Or this could happen after, if President Obama wins this upcoming election. Notice that if Obama loses, we are practically screwed for another 4-8 years.
Basically American Politics SUCK!....
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If Obama loses. I am out of here, or I could marry a prostitute. No seriously, I am getting so fed up with this. I hope something can be done in the next 2 years. If that does not happen I will not wait anymore. I would go back to Mexico and become free for once and for all. I want to get my masters first though.
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07-22-2011, 09:07 PM
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Throughout the time that I've followed the Dream Act never have I seen such a political spectrum than the one we are watching today. As you might know, conservatives are against any type of legislation that would fix the legal status of someone who has broken an immigration law. But its not only that they are against. They are against paying the debt that Americans as a whole owe. They are against any policy that democrats propose. They are against common sense agreements that don't give them 100% of their view.

I think our best chance for the Dream Act to pass will be in 2012. When the GOP starts hunting for votes that could vote either Romney or Bachmann into the Presidential seat. Or this could happen after, if President Obama wins this upcoming election. Notice that if Obama loses, we are practically screwed for another 4-8 years.
Its part of their strategy, crash the economy and hope Obama is blamed for everything, only problem is that this is clearly showing Obama as a person with out a backbone, there is so much he could to do punish the GOP for their inaction, but he is still trying to play the part of compromise with a group that will not compromise, even if it favors their ideological point.

The only unexpected surprise that I like observing are the polls denoting that the majority of americans overwhelmingly blame the GOP for the debt problems, and the even more astonishing figures coming out in support of taxing the richest people the fair share which could cause the GOP plan to backfire in a really horrendous way, and I welcome that very much.

When they are able to bring figures such as the richest 400 people in America have 1.37 trillion in wealth and they are paying the lowest tax rate at 18%, and the student loans for all college students is a mere 1 trillion, they could pay everything and still have on average 900+ million each in wealth.

When they cite corporations with the largest profits in the world paying a wooping 0% in taxes and sometimes getting tax dollars, it makes me wonder, if the supreme court stated that corporations are people why are corporations not forced to abide by the same taxation rule as everyone else. That was a really stupid supreme court ruling btw, along with the money equals people (basically saying that the more money the more of the population it may be assumed to represent), and there does not have to be any limit to the amount of contributions any one individual may give to a candidate.

needless to say this is a huge mess, and right now it seems like anyone could take the lead, it depends on whether progressives are willing to organize and point out the very obvious statistics, or they are all just really lacking backbone and initiative as they have been demonstrating for a while now.
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The thing that irks me about the GOP's stance is the rich get richer policy and that the rich are somehow the job creators. That's preposterous.

I would really like to redirect them to reddit's /r/politics/ and try arguing that stance there.
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If Obama loses. I am out of here, or I could marry a prostitute. No seriously, I am getting so fed up with this. I hope something can be done in the next 2 years. If that does not happen I will not wait anymore. I would go back to Mexico and become free for once and for all. I want to get my masters first though.
LOL this is hilarious. If I was a dude, I'd marry a prostitute too for a green card.
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07-23-2011, 12:52 AM
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Obama is going to win. There is no competition and the best chance is now!

We have a CIR hearing next week.
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07-23-2011, 10:00 AM
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The thing that irks me about the GOP's stance is the rich get richer policy and that the rich are somehow the job creators. That's preposterous.

I would really like to redirect them to reddit's /r/politics/ and try arguing that stance there.
I know right. Rich people do not create jobs supply and demand creates jobs and the people that spend money on the economy to create the demand are specially those with low incomes whose money will not spend too much time in q savings account before going out to be goods generating the demand that truly creates jobs.
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