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EAD does not grant us legal status!

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06-18-2012, 02:36 PM
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I feel like many of yall are ignoring or have not realized that it is not a "work permit" per se. We will be allowed to work, but we will not accrue legal presence. So anything that a normal work permit allows such as leaving the country will not be the same with the EAD. Also the deferred action does not grant you complete immunity from being deported. It will only protect you from being detained for not being able to prove legal presence. For example if you are arrested for DUI and they find out you're undocumented after you have deferred action you can still be deported.

This is all how I interpreted what I read on the ICE and USCIS websites. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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06-18-2012, 02:43 PM
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yeah we get it. it's the same as before just different.

don't commit a crime/misdemeanor.

don't travel outside the country.

get work legally.

sounds like a good deal to me.

seriously, how hard is it to not do something stupid and get arrested? You will get zero sympathy from me for self deporting for drinking and driving.
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06-18-2012, 02:47 PM
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Somethimg is better than nothing. C'on.
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YES,that is pretty much it.It is for this reason I try to get people to err on the side of caution but I'm being called "Negative".Only Permanent residency status allows an alien under the law to stay here permanently just wish a lot of people can see that like you have just taken the initiative to read,kudos!

Deferred action is like a quasi status that does come[AFAIK] with a Notice to Appear[removal proceedings],it basically is at the complete discretion of DHS to approve or deny and can be taken away at anytime.The EAD is based simply under Deferred action to allow the alien work authorization if there is an "economic necessity"!
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06-18-2012, 02:49 PM
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With Deferred Action along with an EAD, you are able to work and legally stay within the country. Technically it is equivalent to legal status.
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06-18-2012, 02:54 PM
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YES,that is pretty much it.It is for this reason I try to get people to err on the side of caution but I'm being called "Negative".Only Permanent residency status allows an alien under the law to stay here permanently just wish a lot of people can see that like you have just taken the initiative to read,kudos!

Deferred action is like a quasi status that does come[AFAIK] with a Notice to Appear[removal proceedings],it basically is at the complete discretion of DHS to approve or deny and can be taken away at anytime.The EAD is based simply under Deferred action to allow the alien work authorization if there is an "economic necessity"!
Great ideas and opinions and all, but at the end of the day it's best to speak with a lawyer on the subject matter anyhow, and then make a move accordingly.
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06-18-2012, 02:57 PM
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With Deferred Action along with an EAD, you are able to work and legally stay within the country. Technically it is equivalent to legal status.
But it can be cancelled any time without your consent. Also, your past illegal presence is not forgiven (especially us EWIs), which could potentially mean trouble when applying for things like green card/USC in the future. However we don't have to worry about all of this if we simply KEEP PUSHING FOR THE DREAM ACT.
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Yeah..I think most of us know that. Our status will be just 'deferral of deportation' or something along those lines.

However, let's not forget that this opens the doors to many opportunities to attend college, take out loans/apply for scholarships, get driver's licenses, ID, air travel inside the US, etc. and most importantly, the fact that we cannot be deported.
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06-18-2012, 03:15 PM
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YES!! We get it, it's not "legal status" But give me a break, what the hell did most of us had going for us before the news on Friday? I'm sure we were working some job we didn't want to do and driving without a license hoping that the cops didn't pull us over. It's not the DREAM Act, we knew that the DREAM Act was not going to become law this year. Some here might want to down play the significance of this. We get it, it's not permanent residency. But let's take it for what it is guys, if everything follows through. This is a big time break for us.
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06-19-2012, 05:05 AM
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With Deferred Action along with an EAD, you are able to work and legally stay within the country. Technically it is equivalent to legal status.
Actually from what I understand there should be no mention of legally staying. What we are getting is a "turn the other cheek" at the fact that we are undocumented. So we cannot be deported for being here without documents unless we become a menace to society or something and then at any point in time it can be taken away like Ianus said.

So I know I'm being redundant, but it is not the equivalent of legal status and it makes me a little mad that you say that because we are fighting to be here permanently not just to have licenses and work!!
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