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DREAM ACT by the possible vote numbers, put the pressure on this group.

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09-04-2017, 03:10 PM
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There is hope in the numbers, and hope is all we need.

The Senate can pass DREAM ACT easily, remember in 2013 they passed CIR w/ 68-24 votes, we can get more than that.

The House of Representatives has about 50 moderate republicans then add that to the current 194 democrats, that is way over the 218 threshold.

i also believe that House Speaker Ryan is not bound by the Hastert Rule that he would only put a bill that has the majority of the majority's support regarding the DACA issue.

The Tuesday Group is an informal caucus of approximately 50 moderate Republican members of the United States House of Representatives. The Republican House caucus was dominated by conservative Republicans and the Tuesday Group was founded to counterbalance that conservative trend.

These are the representatives that we need to put the pressure on (some on the list are co-sponsors of the Dream Act and RACA):

Charlie Dent, R-Penn. (House website) co-chair

Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y. (House website) co-chair

Tom MacArthur, R-N.J. (House website) co-chair

Adam Kinzinger, R-IL (The Hill)

Bill Johnson, R-OH (Roll Call)

Dan Donovan, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)

John Katko, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)

Leonard Lance, R-N.J. (Roll Call)

Frank LoBiondo, R-N.J. (Roll Call)

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fl. (Roll Call)

Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Penn. (Roll Call)

Chris Collins, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)

Pat Tiberi, R-OH (WBALTV)

Rodney Davis, R-IL (WBALTV)

Erik Paulsen, R-MN (Vox)

Mike Coffman, R-CO (Roll Call)

Carlos Curbelo, R-FL (Roll Call)

Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-WA (On the Issues)

David McKinley, R-W.V. (nopanet)

Fred Upton, R-MI (Detroit News)

John Faso, R-N.Y. (The Hill)

Martha McSally, R-AZ (Chicago Tribune)

Pat Meehan, R-PA (AP)

Mike Turner, R-OH (Breitbart)

Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J. (Detroit News)

Tom Reed, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)
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The real question is, will all Democrats vote for it? Or will Schumer and Pelosi rail it for us. Let's not forget their mindset is set for amnesty for all or nothing bill, and they're not willing to compromise because we are not "bargaining chips".
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there's gotta be compromise, but i think they are just saying that for negotiation purposes... demand some unreasonable shit then meet in the middle. Republicans do the same also with their dumb wall and RAISE ACT.

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The real question is, will all Democrats vote for it? Or will Schumer and Pelosi rail it for us. Let's not forget their mindset is set for amnesty for all or nothing bill.
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We can only hope. We need to put as much pressure on the Democrats just like we are doing to the GOP.

We can not keep on being the Democrat's political ploy every year. They must fix this and be a part of the solution, not the problem.
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Add border security, border patrol agents to the border, drones and cameras, stuff like that. There has to be a compromise, it won't pass by itself
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Good post.
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Swim19, you can sticky this if you think it's beneficial like the one in the lounge we update constantly.
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Great post pickle man.
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There is hope in the numbers, and hope is all we need.

The Senate can pass DREAM ACT easily, remember in 2013 they passed CIR w/ 68-24 votes, we can get more than that.

The House of Representatives has about 50 moderate republicans then add that to the current 194 democrats, that is way over the 218 threshold.

i also believe that House Speaker Ryan is not bound by the Hastert Rule that he would only put a bill that has the majority of the majority's support regarding the DACA issue.

The Tuesday Group is an informal caucus of approximately 50 moderate Republican members of the United States House of Representatives. The Republican House caucus was dominated by conservative Republicans and the Tuesday Group was founded to counterbalance that conservative trend.

These are the representatives that we need to put the pressure on (some on the list are co-sponsors of the Dream Act and RACA):

Charlie Dent, R-Penn. (House website) co-chair

Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y. (House website) co-chair

Tom MacArthur, R-N.J. (House website) co-chair

Adam Kinzinger, R-IL (The Hill)

Bill Johnson, R-OH (Roll Call)

Dan Donovan, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)

John Katko, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)

Leonard Lance, R-N.J. (Roll Call)

Frank LoBiondo, R-N.J. (Roll Call)

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fl. (Roll Call)

Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Penn. (Roll Call)

Chris Collins, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)

Pat Tiberi, R-OH (WBALTV)

Rodney Davis, R-IL (WBALTV)

Erik Paulsen, R-MN (Vox)

Mike Coffman, R-CO (Roll Call)

Carlos Curbelo, R-FL (Roll Call)

Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-WA (On the Issues)

David McKinley, R-W.V. (nopanet)

Fred Upton, R-MI (Detroit News)

John Faso, R-N.Y. (The Hill)

Martha McSally, R-AZ (Chicago Tribune)

Pat Meehan, R-PA (AP)

Mike Turner, R-OH (Breitbart)

Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J. (Detroit News)

Tom Reed, R-N.Y. (Roll Call)
Finally, a kindred spirit. Do not waste your energy and mind fighting about Daca right now. Daca is not dead. Right now it's our chance to pass a clean DreamAct. Focus.

Tbe votes are there. Keep the pressure. Daca has outlived its purpose. A permanent solution is finally at hand.
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Democrats are calling Republicans bluff.

Trust me; they will fight to legalize us even if they have to make some tough concessions.
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