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TRT Video: Mexican Dreamers: The fate of child immigrants depends on DACA

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im not mexican and i know a lot you arent but this video offers an interesting perspective in how dreamers struggle to assimilate to there native countries but users here insist that there countries arent that bad and its no big deal returning. fools
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Yeah ok......no big deal returning huh.....SMH
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why is he not speaking English?

his spanish is excellent
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He does not speak English ?!? Also OP "There" indicates a place as in. "Their" is the possessive of they, as in. This is only a guess but you're in your teens and come from Latin America given your signature is in a foreign language. You call us fools, yet you seem to be unable to complete proper sentences.
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He does not speak English ?!? Also OP "There" indicates a place as in. "Their" is the possessive of they, as in. This is only a guess but you're in your teens and come from Latin America given your signature is in a foreign language. You call us fools, yet you seem to be unable to complete proper sentences.
You're missing the entire point of this post and instead choose to criticize my grammar which does nothing to invalidate my argument. I call this tactic ad-hominen fallacies and it's a common weapon for the pseudo-intellectuals.

Regardless, adapting to your native country isn't going to be as easy as some Dreamers portray it to be unless you come from a well-off English speaking country like Canada or Great Britian. You have to have connections prior to departing and be proficient in your native language unless you want to work in a call-center for less than minimum wage.

College degrees from American universities mean nothing unless you come from prestigious institutions like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc. Dreamers will have a terrible time to discriminate and are subject to harrassment, discrimination, etc.

Furthermore, it gets even worse for the majority of Dreamers that originate from countries like the poor regions of Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras which are the leading 4 countries of DACA recepients. If you think they will succeed in these environments as much as they do in the states, you are wrong. Also, providing examples of outliers does not invalidate the argument.
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you make good points but cmon man... how can someone take you seriously if you're grammar is god awful.

but damn, you come up in here again attacking us DREAMer's. why do you hate us so much dude? now you're attacking our achievements and our college degrees because we didn't graduate from Harvard, Yale, or Princeton?

maybe you should go try and get in to any American University to fix your terrible grammar.

so in a sense, you criticizing us and trying to sound like a smart-ass despite your terrible grammatical errors makes your point moot and an oxymoron.

*pretty sure you had to peer-edit your post above to make it sound like your super-smart.

remember your first posts in this website, you weren't the most eloquent poster. check the quote.

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You're missing the entire point of this post and instead choose to criticize my grammar which does nothing to invalidate my argument. I call this tactic ad-hominen fallacies and it's a common weapon for the pseudo-intellectuals.

College degrees from American universities mean nothing unless you come from prestigious institutions like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc. Dreamers will have a terrible time to discriminate and are subject to harrassment, discrimination, etc.
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btw, you calling us pseudo intellectuals while your grammar is terrible and hypocrisy at its finest.
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you make good points but cmon man... how can someone take you seriously if you're grammar is god awful.

but damn, you come up in here again attacking us DREAMer's. why do you hate us so much dude? now you're attacking our achievements and our college degrees because we didn't graduate from Harvard, Yale, or Princeton?

maybe you should go try and get in to any American University to fix your terrible grammar. so in that sense, you criticizing us and trying to sound like a smart-ass despite your terrible grammatical errors makes your point moot and an oxymoron.

*pretty sure you had to peer-edit your post above to make it sound like your super-smart.

remember your first posts in this website, you weren't the most eloquent poster

*check the quote.
Regardless of my past posts that were filled with grammatical errors, that still does not make my current arguments any less wrong.

When I mentioned those universities, I never did so to insult Dreamers. I only mentioned them because in order to stand out in another country, you have to have some top notch credentials and also be proficient in your native tounge as you are in English. Connections help too.

I'm not criticizing all Dreamers in my post. I'm directing it to the Dreamers that think that departing to their home countries is as simple as one, two, three but that's not a reality for the average Dreamers unless they have a good network and solid foundation.

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btw, you calling us pseudo intellectuals while your grammar is terrible and hypocrisy at its finest.
I never said all Dreamers were pseudo-intellectuals. I only said that people who resort to ad-hominem attacks in arguments typically resort to thoss tactics.
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"if" we get deported to those countries and have no choice in the matter, im pretty sure people will eventually adapt dawg. it's human nature.

especially DREAMers, i will never underestimate the heart of a DREAMer. if they made it here in America for years without papers, im pretty sure they will be successful wherever they are in the world. THEY WILL MAKE IT WORK.

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Regardless of my past posts that were filled with grammatical errors, that still does not make my current arguments any less wrong.

When I mentioned those universities, I never did so to insult Dreamers. I only mentioned them because in order to stand out in another country, you have to have some top notch credentials and also be proficient in your native tounge as you are in English. Connections help too.

I'm not criticizing all Dreamers in my post. I'm directing it to the Dreamers that think that departing to their home countries is as simple as one, two, three but that's not a reality for the average Dreamers unless they have a good network and solid foundation.
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"if" we get deported to those countries and have no choice in the matter, im pretty sure people will eventually adapt dawg. it's human nature.

especially DREAMers, i will never underestimate the heart of a DREAMer. if they made it here in America for years without papers, im pretty sure they will be successful wherever they are in the world. THEY WILL MAKE IT WORK.
Yeah, dawg. But the premise of the Dream Act is to fight to remain in the United States because their native countries are inferior. Unfortunately, some people here think that self-deportation is not a big deal. Assimilation is inevitable but it will take some time and extensive efforts. Some people will have an upper hand though.
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