Trump Immigration Plan Will Demand Tough Concessions From Democrats

pavpatel · 01-25-2018, 03:49 PM

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WASHINGTON — The White House is about to formally offer Democrats what it hopes will be an excruciating choice.

If Democrats want permanent relief for young immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, including President Trump’s promise of eventual citizenship, they will have to accept a massive border wall and strict policies designed to block low-skilled immigrants from joining their families in America.

The legislative strategy is set to be released publicly on Monday. It is designed to exert maximum pressure on Democrats, who are desperate to protect the young immigrants, known as Dreamers, but who fiercely oppose the conservative immigration policies embraced by hard-line, anti-immigration activists like Stephen Miller, the president’s top domestic policy adviser in the White House.

But the strategy would work only if the Senate fails to reach a broad, bipartisan accord on an alternative: legislation that would protect the Dreamers, bolster border security, but reject the most draconian aspects of the White House’s proposal. If such legislation, now being negotiated, can win a strong majority in the Senate, it might be Mr. Trump who has the tough choice.

“This is a negotiation,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina. “I welcome White House input.”

Mr. Trump’s impromptu comments on Wednesday night, when he said he was open to allowing some of the young immigrants to become citizens in 10 to 12 years, were quickly followed on Thursday morning by a White House email warning of a flood of immigrants into the country and demanding an end to policies that allow families to sponsor the immigration of their immediate relatives.

And even as Mr. Trump was offering reassuring words to the Dreamers — “tell them not to worry,” he told reporters Wednesday evening — senior White House officials were emphasizing the more hard-line features of their forthcoming immigration proposal.

One senior official said the Dreamers would be given legal status so long as they were productive, law-abiding members of American society. The official said a path to citizenship was only a discussion point and would only be available to about 690,000 young immigrants who signed up for legal protections under an Obama-era program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. Legal status would not be extended to those who were eligible for the program but failed to register, the official said.

Taken together, the dual messages from the White House are a clear outline of the administration’s endgame as Congress struggles to reach a compromise before the expiration on March 5 of the DACA program. In September, Mr. Trump ended the program and set it to expire at the beginning of March, when recipients would no longer be able to work legally in the United States and would once again face the threat of deportation.

But Democratic lawmakers and activists are vowing to resist the president’s trap. They say they will refuse to accept any proposal that requires them to forsake the well-being of other immigrants, including the parents of the Dreamers, to secure the fate of the young immigrants themselves.

“We will oppose it. Most if not all Democrats will oppose it. Some Republicans will, too,” said Frank Sharry, the executive director of America’s Voice, a pro-immigration group. “We are not going to allow Stephen Miller to exploit a crisis that he and his boss created to take a wrecking ball to the Statue of Liberty and enact his nativist wish list.”

Mr. Sharry added, “When they get serious about a reasonable bill — Dream Act and smart border security — and get serious about making and sticking with a bipartisan deal that can pass, then and only then will there be a breakthrough.”

On Thursday, a bipartisan group of senators calling itself the Common Sense Coalition gathered in the office of Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, to discuss the immigration issue. Senators going into the office said they were encouraged by Mr. Trump’s remarks. But they indicated little appetite for the more hard-line approaches being pushed by the president’s aides.

“If you start putting all these highly charged toxic issues, it’s just not going to work,” said Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida.

Activists are betting that some moderate Republicans will not support the president’s more conservative ideas, helping to stiffen the spines of Democratic lawmakers by making the opposition to the president’s proposal bipartisan.

Senators Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, and Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, have been leading bipartisan talks on immigration. Their initial proposal — which did not include the president’s nativist proposals — was rejected by Mr. Trump during a White House meeting in which the president used vulgarities to describe Haitians and Africans.

On Wednesday night, Mr. Graham held a meeting with a far larger group of about 30 senators. They decided that Mr. Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, and Senator John Cornyn of Texas, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, would each function as a clearinghouse for ideas on immigration from their respective parties.

“We’ve got more people in the room, which is good,” Mr. Graham said. “We’re getting more input. We’ve just got to turn it into more output.”

The so-called Twos — the No. 2 Democrats and Republicans from the House and Senate — have also been meeting, although their talks are stalled because the House is in recess this week.

And members of a which helped bring an end to the three-day government shutdown, have also expressed interest in branching out into immigration talks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/u...ite-house.html

rum123456 · 01-25-2018, 03:51 PM

All poltics, democrats would make sure the bill doesn't pass, they want to first take over the house and senate and wants to take the credit for it, this is the reason why they went to trump with an outrages bill that covers the TPS and includes more chain migration, democrats from their end is playing smart.

Copper · 01-25-2018, 03:51 PM

Sorry Sharry, you don’t speak for all of us. If the deal is fair and only if it’s fair we should take it.

davidrellis · 01-25-2018, 03:52 PM

I think democrats will have to concede on some points just like they conceded Monday. I think they’re negotiation power was largely diminished after the shutdown ended.

VJB2 · 01-25-2018, 03:53 PM

I'm liking that the media is starting to call out idiot Miller now. His name wasn't out there as much until now. Time to attack and force his ass out. #PresidentMiller

jwxie518 · 01-25-2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper

Sorry Sharry, you don’t speak for all of us. If the deal is fair and only if it’s fair we should take it.

Don't worry, in the eyes of the politicians, these pro groups are just tools, and these tools don't have anybody else on the Hill, so yeah, don't worry.

rum123456 · 01-25-2018, 03:54 PM

yeah i think what will happen in the end is trump is going to extend the deadline, bill will fail. let's be real here this is a comprehensive immigration bill that has 4 subjects tied to it. Immigration bill was not passed the last 2 decade.

Adrian2145 · 01-25-2018, 03:55 PM

All I want is to survive till 2020, hopefully they accept our Applications

jwxie518 · 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper

Sorry Sharry, you don’t speak for all of us. If the deal is fair and only if it’s fair we should take it.

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Originally Posted by rum123456

yeah i think what will happen in the end is trump is going to extend the deadline, bill will fail. let's be real here this is a comprehensive immigration bill that has 4 subjects tied to it. Immigration bill was not passed the last 2 decade.

totally agree this is CIR, the moment these hardliners keep emphasizing on full funding and chain migration. The rest of the 10M undocumented aliens here in the U.S. will not be addressed, because Republicans and Democrats want to campaign on them (and addressing all of them is not in their interest - though Regan did it!).

dreamer__13 · 01-25-2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rum123456

yeah i think what will happen in the end is trump is going to extend the deadline, bill will fail. let's be real here this is a comprehensive immigration bill that has 4 subjects tied to it. Immigration bill was not passed the last 2 decade.

You lost all credibility with this comment. Mods, banish him.

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