Senate Parliamentarian in Immigration Spotlight (Again)

Swim19 · 10-27-2021, 06:17 PM

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The third proposal (“Plan C”) will most likely be delivered to the Parliamentarian on Friday but could come as late as next week, according to a senior Senate aide who spoke with Latino Rebels on the condition of anonymity.

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The letter calls for “a binding ruling that would require a supermajority to be sustained” that would, in effect, disregard the Parliamentarian’s guidance on immigrant relief.

“There are procedures that could be used [to disregard the Parliamentarian], but whether they will be remains to be seen,” said Durbin when asked by Latino Rebels about the House letter.

A simple majority of senators is needed to disregard the Parliamentarian. Given that control of the Senate is currently split evenly between the Democratic and Republican caucuses, should Biden’s spending make it to the floor for a final vote, all 48 Democratic senators, the two Independent senators caucusing with them, plus the presiding officer of the Senate —likely to be Vice President Kamala Harris herself— will need to vote in the affirmative.

“The problem with ignoring the Parliamentarian is that it blows up the Byrd Rule, which means it blows up reconciliation,” said a senior senator in the Democratic caucus, who also wished to remain anonymous. “If a simple majority can do whatever it wants in a budget bill, it makes the Byrd Rule meaningless. That’s not to say it won’t happen, but that’s a monster we can’t put back in the box.”

The Byrd Rule, named for former Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd (D-WV), limits what can be included for consideration in a reconciliation bill or resolution in the Senate.

Progressive Caucus members say they are not backing down from including immigrant relief in BBB.

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Neither Manchin nor Sinema has expressly opposed citizenship in BBB, but Manchin has said that he does not believe immigrant relief will be in the final bill.

“I don’t think it’s going to be in there. I really don’t,” said Manchin told Latino Rebels on October 4. “I think it’s too big for that.”

Manchin also said that he was unwilling to “bust the Byrd Rule” when asked by Latino Rebels if he agreed with the Parliamentarian’s decisions on Plans A and B.

The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that Plan B had reemerged in strategy discussions by Congressional Democrats scrambling to advance a level of immigrant relief that advocates will find acceptable. A placeholder may be inserted into the bill that can eventually be substituted for another proposal.

https://www.latinorebels.com/2021/10...animmigration/

2MoreYears · 10-27-2021, 06:39 PM

Don't waste this opportunity! A DACA-only solution is the only thing that stands a chance, ram it through. It's an easy sell to the American people if bypassing the parliamentarian is needed. She might be Ok with a DACA-only solution however. Do it !

Afridi786 · 10-27-2021, 06:58 PM

Dems are going to get wrecked in the midterms, I don't think they understand how demotivating they're making their base. They literally will get none of their major policies done, only the ones that help corporations and the rich will pass. It seems like every other day that another piece of BBB is dead. Anything other than a symbolic executive order is a pipe dream now.

Smooth · 10-27-2021, 07:02 PM

I would be fine with a renewable permit that no future administration can get rid of.

Outsider626 · 10-27-2021, 08:12 PM

I hope it fails. We already have DACA.

2Face · 10-27-2021, 08:13 PM

Chucky Schumer/Nancy Pelosi/UWD/Big Time immigrant groups <<--- these are the people who do not want legalization of dreamers.

Anything short of immediate legalization (Green Cards) should be rejected. If they pass something to codify DACA we will never be legalized, we will be made into permanent second class citizens who can't travel.

2MoreYears · 10-27-2021, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face

Chucky Schumer/Nancy Pelosi/UWD/Big Time immigrant groups <<--- these are the people who do not want legalization of dreamers.

Anything short of immediate legalization (Green Cards) should be rejected. If they pass something to codify DACA we will never be legalized, we will be made into permanent second class citizens who can't travel.

Plus ALL Republicans.

Outsider626 · 10-27-2021, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face

Chucky Schumer/Nancy Pelosi/UWD/Big Time immigrant groups <<--- these are the people who do not want legalization of dreamers.

Anything short of immediate legalization (Green Cards) should be rejected. If they pass something to codify DACA we will never be legalized, we will be made into permanent second class citizens who can't travel.

They are trying to kick the can down the road for another 10 years.

2Face · 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626

They are trying to kick the can down the road for another 10 years.

It is the ultimate playbook. Come up with drama to make it seem like you're doing something. Cut backroom deal to ensure someone else rejects it so you don't get blamed. Make a public statement saying, "We will continue fighting for Dreamers! Andalee..vamos..Donate! Trump is coming for you!" and rinse and repeat and cash in...

That Justice John guy literally called it 100% how this Dem reconciliation ploy would pan out....and he got banned.

2Face · 10-27-2021, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears

Plus ALL Republicans.

Why you surprised by that...Republicans weren't elected to legalize illegals lol...

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