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Obama addresses immigration reform - Page 2

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#11
08-23-2009, 12:14 AM
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This is what the bill says about processing-

"SEC. 10. EXPEDITED PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS; PROHIBITION ON FEES.

Regulations promulgated under this Act shall provide that applications under this Act will be considered on an expedited basis and without a requirement for the payment by the applicant of any additional fee for such expedited processing."
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08-24-2009, 03:42 AM
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Thats good to know thanks, ThespianDreamer
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08-25-2009, 05:08 AM
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Well please correct me if i am wrong, but don't people get conditional permanent residency ?

I think it is a green card with extra conditions to keep it.

Same as all green cards, but few more rules.

So wont we not get it right away?
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08-25-2009, 08:59 AM
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Well please correct me if i am wrong, but don't people get conditional permanent residency ?

I think it is a green card with extra conditions to keep it.

Same as all green cards, but few more rules.

So wont we not get it right away?
your only supposed to have the conditional permanent residency for 2 years then you get the 10 years then you get your green card. but they sometime only give the green card to some people. and that takes a while, you dont get them just like that
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08-25-2009, 01:58 PM
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I know, but you still need to wait like 6 years. and get the GC's
Wat? You need to read the actual text thats available before you say things like this.

We get out conditional green card for 6 years, with the conditions being finishing at least 2 years of college or 2 years in the military. After those 6 years, we get a 10 year GC without those 2 requirements. But we can use those first 6 years towards a citizenship application, if we choose to apply for it. The only difference is that we have to wait an extra year and either go to college or military. It is not a "restricted" GC, it just has conditions.
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08-25-2009, 03:02 PM
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S.1545

(a) IN GENERAL-

(1) CONDITIONAL BASIS FOR STATUS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, and except as provided in section 6, an alien whose status has been adjusted under section 4 to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence shall be considered to have obtained such status on a conditional basis subject to the provisions of this section. Such conditional resident status shall be valid for a period of 6 years, subject to termination under subsection (b).


I think under the current version it is 6 years, then a person gets his Permanent residency.


Source. Thomas.loc.gov


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Wat? You need to read the actual text thats available before you say things like this.

We get out conditional green card for 6 years, with the conditions being finishing at least 2 years of college or 2 years in the military. After those 6 years, we get a 10 year GC without those 2 requirements. But we can use those first 6 years towards a citizenship application, if we choose to apply for it. The only difference is that we have to wait an extra year and either go to college or military. It is not a "restricted" GC, it just has conditions.
i could not find the 10 years you talked about. Could you tell me where you got that from ?

And yes, those 6 years counts towards citizenship application. Which means after you are done with the 6 year conditional residency, you can apply for naturalization.

So you could say in a way you get your citizenship in 6 to 8 years ( give or take).


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(e) TREATMENT OF PERIOD FOR PURPOSES OF NATURALIZATION- For purposes of title III of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401 et seq.), in the case of an alien who is in the United States as a lawful permanent resident on a conditional basis under this section, the alien shall be considered to have been admitted as an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence and to be in the United States as an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence. However, the conditional basis must be removed before the alien may apply for naturalization.

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08-25-2009, 03:33 PM
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Wat? You need to read the actual text thats available before you say things like this.

We get out conditional green card for 6 years, with the conditions being finishing at least 2 years of college or 2 years in the military. After those 6 years, we get a 10 year GC without those 2 requirements. But we can use those first 6 years towards a citizenship application, if we choose to apply for it. The only difference is that we have to wait an extra year and either go to college or military. It is not a "restricted" GC, it just has conditions.

I have read and reread what the bill offers and I haven't seen nor heard anything about 10 years what I have read is that we have six years with conditional GC when we need two years of college or military and then you can apply for Permanent Residency and apply for Citizenship and you can count does six years witch means we wouldn't wait 10 years only 6 or 7.
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08-25-2009, 05:08 PM
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I have read and reread what the bill offers and I haven't seen nor heard anything about 10 years what I have read is that we have six years with conditional GC when we need two years of college or military and then you can apply for Permanent Residency and apply for Citizenship and you can count does six years witch means we wouldn't wait 10 years only 6 or 7.
10 year permanent residency is just a regular GC, just valid for 10 years. They do expire and you have to renew them and you are not free and clear. Some committed crimes and other offenses can result in the rejection of the renewal petition, (however misdemeanors fall under "petty crime" exemption; one time exemption though from what i read). You can say its "conditional" on good behavior. Some people choose not to apply for the USC for whatever reasons and then they just have that for the rest of their lives.

By the extra year I meant that we have to wait 6 for the USC application instead of standard 5 for regular PRs.
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08-25-2009, 06:06 PM
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10 year permanent residency is just a regular GC, just valid for 10 years. They do expire and you have to renew them and you are not free and clear. Some committed crimes and other offenses can result in the rejection of the renewal petition, (however misdemeanors fall under "petty crime" exemption; one time exemption though from what i read). You can say its "conditional" on good behavior. Some people choose not to apply for the USC for whatever reasons and then they just have that for the rest of their lives.

By the extra year I meant that we have to wait 6 for the USC application instead of standard 5 for regular PRs.
oh i see what you are saying. You told kenny earlier to read the text of the bill. In the Bill there is no mention of 10 years.

So what he said was from the bill.

On another note, yes, you are right. Green card is only for 10 years and needs renewing. But that is not stated in the DA bill, but rather just the law.

And yes, you are right on the rest of your post as well .



So to not confuse any one,

After the 6 years of conditional residency, you get Perm residency. Then right away you can apply for USC. The 6 years counts toward that, so you would get your USC soon after.

And the ten year, is just how long a green card is valid.
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08-25-2009, 06:28 PM
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I get it, know it makes sense I didn't think of the expiration time of the TGC.
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