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New immigration strategy -- Deport yourself (BULLSHIT!!) - Page 3

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um, I think I read somewhere in this thread that if u get deported u get a ten yr.ban...this is false, you don't get a ten yr. ban, u get a lifetime ban.
u only get a ten yr. ban when you leave voluntarily and if you're an adult.
No you get a 10 year ban. If you try to reenter within those 10 years then you get a lifetime ban.

There is no 10 year ban for voluntary departure. The whole concept of voluntary departure is to admit own fault and avoid penalties.
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No you get a 10 year ban. If you try to reenter within those 10 years then you get a lifetime ban.

There is no 10 year ban for voluntary departure. The whole concept of voluntary departure is to admit own fault and avoid penalties.
What are the chances of a visa being approved after the 10 year ban?
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No you get a 10 year ban. If you try to reenter within those 10 years then you get a lifetime ban.

There is no 10 year ban for voluntary departure. The whole concept of voluntary departure is to admit own fault and avoid penalties.
rahman, you are still going to get a ten yr. ban when you leave voluntarily. Because if what you said was true everyone would leave seeing there would be no penalties. My mother would be leaving the country with me. why isn't she leaving? because she's going to get the ten yr. ban.
If she wouldn't get a ten year ban then she would leave. or, If I wouldn't get a ten year. ban then I'd stay past my 18 bday. and I would go to college here. I don't think the lawyers I spoke with lied to me.
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This has to be one of the worst oxymoronic statements ever.
i loled hard!

I do agree though that if it wasnt for that idiotic and outdated ten year ban i would consider continuing my post grad education in Europe in the hopes of one day returning as a physician.
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Aliens who have not previously been encountered by immigration officials or who have criminal records, or are determined to be a danger to the community are not eligible for this program and may be arrested and taken into custody if they report to ICE.

see? this is only for ppl who are ingoring their deportation orders, "fugitives".
I think you guys got this all mixed up. it doesn't apply to us, you turn yourself in to an ICE agent they get your finger prints and everything, so if you're going to do that forget about coming back.
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i was reading a newspaper and it said that illegal immigrants are going home on their own.
All thanks to the "tougher enforcement of current laws."

oh noes...
ohh yah, i saw that article too. it says that the economy is down and illegal immiagrants are starting to leave the country and the % of illegal alien is droppd by 11%.
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ohh yah, i saw that article too. it says that the economy is down and illegal immiagrants are starting to leave the country and the % of illegal alien is droppd by 11%.
so is that a good thing for us...?
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That's actually even more ridiculous, federally funding illegal aliens to leave?? Yeah, never in a million years.
Might sound ridiculous, but its the only thing that would even remotely work.

Who in their right mind is going to self-deport?
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rahman, you are still going to get a ten yr. ban when you leave voluntarily. Because if what you said was true everyone would leave seeing there would be no penalties. My mother would be leaving the country with me. why isn't she leaving? because she's going to get the ten yr. ban.
If she wouldn't get a ten year ban then she would leave. or, If I wouldn't get a ten year. ban then I'd stay past my 18 bday. and I would go to college here. I don't think the lawyers I spoke with lied to me.
You're completely right.However,before the 1996 laws passed one could leave & be eligible for new visa upon returning to their home country if they got voluntary departure,there was also only a 5 year bar back then.

Anyway,according to ICE the program looks to be mainly for those with Removal,Final & Exclusion orders.

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.....Prior to the launch of this pilot program, most fugitive aliens would have been considered to be a flight risk and so would have remained in custody until their removal. By coming forward and participating in the program, ICE will no longer consider the alien to be a flight risk.

There are approximately 572,000 ICE fugitives in the United States, including 457,000 who do not have criminal histories. An ICE fugitive is defined as an alien who has failed to depart the United States based upon a final order of removal, deportation, or exclusion from a U.S. immigration judge, or who has failed to report to ICE after receiving notice to do so. Only non-criminal fugitive aliens are eligible for the program and will be screened by an ICE officer when reporting to verify status. ICE officers will update immigration databases, and explain supervision requirements to eligible aliens
. Aliens who qualify would be allowed to remain in the community with a reporting requirement or an electronic monitoring device. Since all situations are unique, an ICE officer will notify the alien of the next steps to take for removal.

Aliens who are able to provide for their own removal would have the flexibility to make their own travel arrangements within a 90-day time period. ICE will work with eligible aliens who are not able to provide for their travel; however, ICE will maintain control and schedule the travel arrangements in these specific cases.

ICE will allow eligible participants to arrange for their families to depart together. U.S. citizens or aliens with a legal immigration status cannot be removed by ICE from the United States; however the relatives of the non-criminal fugitive alien being removed are welcome to make their own travel arrangements to depart at or around the same time, if they choose to join their relative. These are personal decisions made by each individual family.

The agency recognizes there are those less inclined to accept the intentions of such a compassionately conceived enforcement initiative, but remains committed to providing sensible alternatives that balance the welfare of the individuals and families in question with its clear obligation to uphold the law.

The Scheduled Departure Program will not alter a participant's immigration status or provide any immigration benefit. The program is not a form of voluntary departure or voluntary return. Participants will continue to have a final order of removal, deportation or exclusion.

Aliens who have not previously been encountered by immigration officials or who have criminal records, or are determined to be a danger to the community are not eligible for this program and may be arrested and taken into custody if they report to ICE.

Next week, a series of print and radio ads in several languages will highlight the program in the pilot locations. Additional information will be also available on www.ice.gov and via a hotline staffed by ICE personnel. Aliens are also encouraged to speak with their consular officials, community groups, or attorneys if they have other questions.
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