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Self-Deportation Question

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08-06-2008, 03:30 PM
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Most of you guys are already aware of USCIS's new plan to get rid of all the undocumented immigrants by allowing them (us) to self-deport.

Though I know this is completely asinine, the new "plan" seems to suggest that if one were to attempt to leave the country on their own accord (simply go to the airport and buy a plane ticket to head back home), he or she would be subject to detention and official deportation proceedings. The new self-deportation program seems to remove this burden by simply letting us register with USCIS and leave. Or maybe I am misunderstanding things.

If this is not the case, then, I fail to understand why the self-deportation program requires us to seemingly register first before being able to leave.

Can someone clear this up?

Ultimately, I just want to be assured that if I so choose to leave this country (Purchase a plane ticket and simply board a flight out of here) I will not be detained or any other bullshit of that nature.

Below is an article for reference, and a clip from Jimmy Kimmel Live.

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Self-deportation program criticized as `a fantasy'
Authorities have launched a new strategy to return undocumented immigrants back to their home countries: self-deportation.


BY LAURA ISENSEE
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Federal authorities debuted a new strategy this week for tracking down undocumented immigrants: Turn yourself in and deport yourself.

Dubbed ''Operation Scheduled Departure,'' the pilot program was launched Tuesday in five cities nationwide: Santa Ana and San Diego in California; Phoenix; Chicago, and Charlotte, N.C.

It runs through Aug. 22 and could expand to other cities and states, including Florida, ''depending on its success,'' said Nicole Navas, spokeswoman with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

`IT'S ABSURD'

Local immigration advocates ridiculed the pilot program. The consensus: It's going to be a hard sell.

'If they think people are going to leave before being detained, go to the office and say `Here I am,' it's absurd,'' said Nora Sandigo, executive director of Miami-based American Fraternity.

''It's a fantasy very far from reality,'' Sandigo said.

The program is part of the federal government's latest effort to combat illegal immigration following last year's failed effort in Congress to reform the immigration system.

Currently, an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants, including between 800,000 and 950,000 in Florida, live in the United States, according to a 2005 study by Pew Hispanic Center. Through the initiative, only those immigrants with final orders of deportation can turn themselves in to authorities. Some may arrange for family members to go with them.

Those who qualify will not be sent to a detention center to await final deportation. Instead, they will be placed under supervision and may be required to wear an electronic monitoring device.

Ineligible for the program are those with criminal records and those who have remained undetected by federal authorities. They would be detained through the regular deportation process.

Immigration advocates argue that the current anti-immigrant sentiment along with the economic downturn are already causing many undocumented immigrants to return home on their own.

''I get a sense of real frustration on their part,'' said Cheryl Little, executive director of the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center. ``They're feeling very unwelcome and add to that a tanking economy which is making it more difficult for them to earn a decent living.''

The self-deportation program offers no long-term solution, said Jose Lagos, head of Honduran Unity, a Miami-based nonprofit. ''The solution is comprehensive immigration reform,'' he said.

Voluntary departure is something local anti-illegal immigration group Citizens of Dade United has lobbied for several years, said Enos Schera, vice president of the group.

''It's a good idea because they'll be leaving on their own,'' Schera said.

Federal officials say they are confident they are on the right course. ICE Director Julie Myers said eligible immigrants now have the opportunity to leave the country with, in some cases, the government paying the travel costs.

Myers has gone to Spanish-language airwaves to promote the program. Appearing on Univisión, she told anchor Jorge Ramos: ``The program basically gives an opportunity to those seeking an organized way to self-deport.''

BUSED HOME

The federal government tried a similar strategy in 2004 when it set up daily flights from Tucson, Ariz., to Mexico City or Guadalajara for Mexican nationals caught along the U.S. border. From there, immigrants were bused to their hometowns. The $13 million voluntary repatriation program was meant to lessen deaths in the desert and restrict smuggling rings.

Whether undocumented immigrants buy into the program remains to be seen, but some like Armando Lacayo, who lives in South Florida, wouldn't rule it out if deemed eligible.

''Loneliness, anxiety, years away from your family and home -- it overwhelms you,'' said Lacayo, 41, who left behind his wife and two sons in his native Nicaragua. He plans to join them soon.

''I prefer to leave on my own,'' Lacayo said.
Clip From Jimmy Kimmel in which he gives his thoughts on the new self-deportation program
Fast-forwad to 5:56 if you don't want to wait.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAgAke1dTjo
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08-06-2008, 03:49 PM
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this would make sense if they waived the 10 year ban
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08-06-2008, 03:52 PM
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hewlett, what I think, is that this is only for people who have previously ignored deportation orders. If you have never been approached by ice officials and you go and do what it says they're going to detain you.
go to the other thread that's on the same topic the "bullshit" thread.
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08-06-2008, 04:14 PM
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I think I got the answer.

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It offers fugitive illegal immigrants with no criminal history up to 90 days to leave the United States, during when they can stay out of jail.

An ICE fugitive is an illegal immigrant who has failed to leave after a final order of removal, deportation or exclusion from an immigration judge.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080805/...T9XHQruOBQuk0A
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08-06-2008, 05:05 PM
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This is retarded.
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08-06-2008, 05:08 PM
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It only applies to people who have deportation orders against them. The statement says that if illegal immigrants who have no deportation orders or have never encountered ICE officials can take part in the program, however they will be arrested and detained.

Also, DHS is implementing exit registration for people leaving the U.S. People who are traveling abroad and cannot surrender their I-94 document are being fingerprinted and registered in a database before they are allowed to board.
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It offers fugitive illegal immigrants with no criminal history up to 90 days to leave the United States, during when they can stay out of jail.

An ICE fugitive is an illegal immigrant who has failed to leave after a final order of removal, deportation or exclusion from an immigration judge.
So the only incentive is that those who have failed to leave can leave without going to a detention facility?

...moronic...
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08-06-2008, 05:27 PM
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sigh..have I not been saying that all along? in the other thread as well?
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sigh..have I not been saying that all along? in the other thread as well?
I regularly skip your posts, so I wouldn't know...
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So the only incentive is that those who have failed to leave can leave without going to a detention facility?

...moronic...
How is it moronic ?

People with deportation orders can never adjust their status in this country through normal means.Imo,it is moronic to stay in this country with a deportation order.
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