• Home
  • Today
  • Advocacy
  • Forum
Donate
  • login
  • register
Home

They need you!

Forum links

  • Recent changes
  • Member list
  • Search
  • Register
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Go to Page...

Resources

  • Do I qualify?
  • In-state tuition
  • FAQ
  • Ways to legalize
  • Feedback
  • Contact us

Join our list

National calendar of events

«  

March

  »
S M T W T F S
1
 
2
 
3
 
4
 
5
 
6
 
7
 
8
 
9
 
10
 
11
 
12
 
13
 
14
 
15
 
16
 
17
 
18
 
19
 
20
 
21
 
22
 
23
 
24
 
25
 
26
 
27
 
28
 
29
 
30
 
31
 
 
 
 
 
Sync with this calendar
DAP Forums > Other Topics > New Members

Concerned School Counselor - Page 3

  • View
  • Post new reply
  • Thread tools
  • ‹ previous
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
#21
10-09-2008, 03:03 PM
Member
Joined in Oct 2008
54 posts
EverElevate's Avatar
EverElevate
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by concerned_counselor View Post
I am not Latino. I do not pretend to understand the daily struggles that my Latino students and friends go throgh. I am willing and able to provide whatever information I can, to whomever I can, as often as I can. I am willing to learn from the Latino community. I would like to complete research on Latinos within the American school system. Until today, I'd never really thought about whether my Latino students would be allowed to matriculate into a college, university, trade school, community college, whatever.

Today, my 14 year old 8th grade student provided me with an education.
The conversation went something like this....

DG: Mrs. CC, you know how we're talking about going to high school, college, and what kind of careers we like?

CC: Yeah?

DG: Well, a lot of us can't go.

CC: Baby, yes you can. Anyone can go to college if they do what they are supposed to do in middle school and high school. You may get a scholarship or a loan, or something. You just have to want to go.
DG: No. We don't have our papers, so we can't go to college. My cousin is in 12th grade, and she has to move back to Mexico to go to college because she doesn't have her papers.

CC: Oh, sweetheart, I never thought about. I knew your parents didn't have their papers, but I just assumed you were born here.

DG: No, Person A, Person B (and the list of students continues) don't have their papers either. I don't know about the other Latinos, but I know the Mexicans here who dont' have their papers. Even if we make good grades and get into magnet schools we can't go to college. [I'd just recommended that this particular student apply for one of the local magnet schools].

CC: Are there any good colleges in Mexico?

DG: I don't know. But I don't want to go there to go to college.

CC: I know sweetie. You were born there, but you grew up here. This is home for you. I honestly don't know. I'm going to have to do some research and get back to you. Worst case, we can at least begin to look at what colleges Mexico has to offer, and find out which ones are the best. Or maybe, you can get a student visa. I just don't know.

DG: Okay.

CC: I'm sorry. I just don't know what else to tell you.



So this was the conversation I had about two hours ago. Once I got home, I spoke with a friend who I thought could help me. She told me about the DREAM Act.

I feel like crying for this student and every other student who is going through the same thing. I now understand why some of my students have no motivation to do well in, or even attend, school. What's the point when your hardwork doesn't pay off. We require all students, illegal immigrants or not, to attend school until they are 18 years old. We tell them the reward will be graduating from high school, then going off to college, and finally getting that dream job. The dream is a lie for some. We snatch it away before they even have a chance.

I empathize with all of you.
If you have any suggestions on what I can say to my Latino students, or what I can do with my Latino students that would be helpful, I am up for any and all suggestions.

Thanks for listening.
i wish i had a counselor or a teacher that was as sympathetic as you. i really mean that.

it was so obvious that my teachers and counselors really did not care much about my situation; i think some of them were even a little peeved that i was undocumented.

all i can say is, please support the dream act and candidates that support the dream act. As an American citizen Mrs. CC, you have far more influence then many of us. Please call senators and candidates and let them know that your an American citizen who wants the Dream act
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
EverElevate
View Public Profile
Send a private message to EverElevate
Find all posts by EverElevate
#22
10-09-2008, 07:20 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Mar 2006
915 posts
hooper
0 AP
Here's some more information you could use.

http://www.greendot.org/files/Websit...40%20Guide.pdf

http://professionals.collegeboard.co...ented-students

Although your students may not be ab540 students (students from California), there still good resources there.
__________________
DACA Application sent 08/17/2012 to Arizona Lockbox via Express
Delivered 08/20/2012
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
hooper
View Public Profile
Send a private message to hooper
Find all posts by hooper
#23
10-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jun 2007
2,690 posts
CIR_DREAM2009
210 AP
Oh wow, thanks for caring, concerned counselor!
__________________
EAD/DACA Renewal: 10/8/2014
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
CIR_DREAM2009
View Public Profile
Send a private message to CIR_DREAM2009
Find all posts by CIR_DREAM2009
#24
10-10-2008, 07:20 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Aug 2008
1,379 posts
vivace
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by EverElevate View Post
i wish i had a counselor or a teacher that was as sympathetic as you. i really mean that.

As an American citizen Mrs. CC, you have far more influence then many of us. Please call senators and candidates and let them know that your an American citizen who wants the Dream act
If I knew that my counselor would react the same way you do, concerned counselor, I'd be more willing to tell my story.
Even though I know that they wouldn't be able to report me, I'd still feel uncomfortable if my counselor acts strangely toward my status.

Use your citizenship to your advantage, CC.
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
vivace
View Public Profile
Send a private message to vivace
Find all posts by vivace
#25
10-11-2008, 04:01 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jun 2007
2,690 posts
CIR_DREAM2009
210 AP
^ I had a bad experience with a counselor in high school. She kept badgering me about my Social Security number at her office when I wouldn't commit (the topic was my college application). It was not fun.
__________________
EAD/DACA Renewal: 10/8/2014
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
CIR_DREAM2009
View Public Profile
Send a private message to CIR_DREAM2009
Find all posts by CIR_DREAM2009
#26
10-11-2008, 07:18 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Aug 2008
1,379 posts
vivace
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007 View Post
^ I had a bad experience with a counselor in high school. She kept badgering me about my Social Security number at her office when I wouldn't commit (the topic was my college application). It was not fun.
Did you finally tell her that you don't have one?
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
vivace
View Public Profile
Send a private message to vivace
Find all posts by vivace
#27
10-11-2008, 07:36 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jun 2007
2,690 posts
CIR_DREAM2009
210 AP
^ No, I kept saying a variation of talk to my parents to every question about it. I guess I exasperated her because she asked almost the same exact same thing about my SS number and I basically had the same answer.
__________________
EAD/DACA Renewal: 10/8/2014
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
CIR_DREAM2009
View Public Profile
Send a private message to CIR_DREAM2009
Find all posts by CIR_DREAM2009
#28
10-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Senior Member
From Midwest
Joined in Aug 2008
686 posts
2dreamORnot2dream's Avatar
2dreamORnot2dream
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007 View Post
^ No, I kept saying a variation of talk to my parents to every question about it. I guess I exasperated her because she asked almost the same exact same thing about my SS number and I basically had the same answer.
LoL, This reminds me of a time when I worked at a place on a work permit for two years after it expired. I kept on saying …I’ll bring it tomorrow, I’ll bring it tomorrow, I’ll bring it tomorrow, I’ll bring it next week.. Finally the HR person got transferred to another office and I was left alone until I quit . The new HR didn’t care or did not notice my work permit expired.
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
2dreamORnot2dream
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 2dreamORnot2dream
Find all posts by 2dreamORnot2dream
  • ‹ previous
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3


« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Contact Us - DREAM Act Portal - Archive - Top
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.