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#1
10-19-2008, 05:33 PM
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I have a few questions on the details of the DREAM Act once it passes and we are eligible for it. I'm not sure if these questions can be answered now because I don't know how detailed the DREAM Act was. I only know the basics.

1. How do we get the government to recognize that we are one of its beneficiaries? Do we go to a specific office and fill out papers?

2. Do we get social security numbers right away or after the required years spent in school/army?

3. Can we legally work? Drive? Vote? Pay taxes? Buy property?

4. What do we put when we register in college post the passing of DREAM? Are we citizens? LPR's? Do we still have to fill out AB-540?

Thanks for the help.
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10-19-2008, 06:13 PM
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1. We would have to show prove that we been in the country five (5) consecutive years since our date of arrival, such as high school diploma, school report cards, I would say any official records that can show you been in the country five (5) consecutive years etc.

2.We would get a social social security number right away, since we are going to need it to pay taxes, get our driver license, open bank accounts. We need it if we are going to do anything legally. etc.

3.Question two answer most of question three expect that we can not vote until after we complete our requirements. After our two-year community college or complete at least two years towards a 4-year degree, or serve two years in the U.S. military we will be taken out of "conditional" status and granted a permanent residency that would put us on a path to citizenship.

4. I would ask a college adviser or my immigration lawyer about this question, post DREAM Act passing.
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10-19-2008, 06:45 PM
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1.We do so through the use of evidence.When an immigration bill passes Congress it is then up to the agency that has primary jurisdiction.USCIS under the Department of Homeland Security is the primary agency dealing with immigration benefits so that is where we'd get any forms if Dream act were to pass.It is also a very bad idea if you're undocumented & asked for the immigration forms in person since you're still dealing with a federal agency that routinely tries to deport undocumented individuals.AFAIK,Dream act only specifically states that someone cannot be deported while their application is pending,but nothing preventing the agency from trying to deport an individual who doesn't have anything filed.Should Dream act pass it would be best to either allow a legal family member or your legal representative to get you the necessary forms.

2.All individuals who have some form of US residency approved by USCIS are entitled to Social security numbers.At the moment the Social Security administration only gives out SSN's to US work authorized individuals.Dream act would allow Conditional Residency,but it is still Residency none the less.

3.a./ As a Dream act Conditional resident you would be entitled to work anywhere in the US & its territories[as long as the position doesn't require US citizenship].

b.You should be able to drive as long as you meet the necessary driving requirements for your State.Most states follow the universal federal rules of Real ID.The basic requirements if it is your first State ID or Drivers license should be ;1.Proof of Signature[Ahem,Selective Service],2.Proof of legal presence[Dream act residency],3.Proof of address[Bills or banks statements should do],4.Proof of a valid SSN.

c.Voting would be an ABSOLUTE NO.We've all explained in past threads why which is basically Non-citizens including Green card holders are not allowed to vote in any US elections.Doing so could result in the harshest of immigration of penalties,revocation of your current benefit & a permanent bar to all US immigration benefits.Only US citizens are legally allowed to vote.

d.Yeah we can definitely buy property.

4.Since I don't live in Cali I can't really say & since Dream act hasn't passed yet it would be difficult at this point to gauge how the Federal legislation would positively affect states.

Hopefully this helps.
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10-20-2008, 02:53 PM
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You can't vote in national elections such as for U.S President , U.S senator , Congress until you become a U.S Citizen , but certain local elections depending on where you live allow Legal residents to vote for City council , mayor, propositions and such.
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this might be a stupid ass question but its worth a shot, no one knows about how long a process like this (DREAM) would take for someone to acquire a SSN # would you?

or even how long after the bill passes would it take for us to be able to even begin filing?
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10-20-2008, 05:17 PM
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this might be a stupid ass question but its worth a shot, no one knows about how long a process like this (DREAM) would take for someone to acquire a SSN # would you?

or even how long after the bill passes would it take for us to be able to even begin filing?
That is a question i wish i could get an answer too as well.

my wild guess is it would take like 6-12 months to get everything in order
like any new immigration forms that might need to be created and such.
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I don't know how long it would take for the immigration paperwork but I do know that you can get a Social security number really quickly once your paper work is in order.It only took about 5 days to get my SSN from start to finish.
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10-21-2008, 01:23 AM
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After the bill is passed, DHS has upto 6 months to implement regulations for the bill after which we can begin to apply. However, I think some temporary relief may be possible immediately after passage.
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After the bill is passed, DHS has upto 6 months to implement regulations for the bill after which we can begin to apply. However, I think some temporary relief may be possible immediately after passage.
I hope what you say is true.
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After the bill is passed, DHS has upto 6 months to implement regulations for the bill after which we can begin to apply. However, I think some temporary relief may be possible immediately after passage.
During the six-month to one-year wait, can the approval of the bill be altered?
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