S.9 is up ! - Page 2

We need to do everything to get DREAM attached to S7 or else it is certain doom for us, LOL.

Good idea, i read somewhere that CIR will be debated in late fall and voted on in early 2010. At least that is what frank sharry said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...tory?track=rss

I have been pondering yesterday about this year, and may have come up with a couple of theories on how immigration may move.

1. With this trillion dollar stimulus and this massive 1.2 trillion dollar deficit for the fiscal year, there isn't much to do in terms of health care and energy since those would be too expensive. This would mean he was to wait and do other things like education, war, and it seems now immigration. None of these things are as costly as health care and a new energy focus. I am starting to read this on a couple of news blogs.

2. I think there are lot more supporters of the dream act than we think. I have a list compiled with the number at 61 if we included McCaskill. I think some senators will vote for cloture and then vote against the bill if they they want to show that they were tough on immigration. This is probably what some of the democrats that voted against it last time would do. I think a lot of senators just didn't vote for it because they know it would fail.

3. I have a feeling that the DREAM Act will come up around the time of education is debated, unless immigration will take place early spring. All indications point to the fall, but who knows. It really depends on what Obama meant about moving a fast as possible to pass the DA. If number 2 is true, then it is more likely that it can come up on it own during education, since education will be piecemeal. I just find it strange that Obama would separate the DA, then wait for it to be added to CIR.

Also, I have heard some talk that Obama can't be trusted because he is a politician. While that may be true, a good example of him possibly keeping his campaign promises is the middle class tax cuts that he wants to be in the stimulus. People are saying it wont do much for the economy and he is just doing it to fulfill his campaign promise. That is a good sign.

I'm one of those people who does not trust him or any other politician. It may be true regarding tax cut, it definitely won't be true abt dream act. They'll put all the immigration related topic in one bill. To them, it would be end of the world if education or any other bill contain the word immigration and immigrant. Dream act would affect least amount people and its more effective because we are all educated and can contribute to the economy lot more then any guest worker and any other class of illegal immigrant. That's why politician and activist won't fight hard to separate because it might just work and won't be as flashy as let say full legalization.

Lets hope that this makes it all the way up to Obama's desk. And what can we do to attach DREAM to this? Send e-mails? Any info will be apreciated.

We don't want dream attach to this...

We know it's certainly doomed if it's attached to this.

SOOO the question is where is S.7 in the congressional schedule?

Certainly before s.9.

why is this S. 9 doomed according to you guys?

there are too many other issues in this bill that makes it controversial and more rejectable. We would rather have Dream as a standalone issue and help it pass. Attaching it to something much bigger or controversial just complicates and might push other senators to oppose the bill then to pass it.